How could we be worth it?

How could we possibly be worth the price paid to redeem our souls? How will we ever glorify God?

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Psalm 102:25
In the beginning you laid the foundations of the earth and the heavens are the work of your hands.
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What a pathetic way to look at yourself and humanity in general.

Why does God need to be glorified?

Hello march56.

We aren't worth it. That's the point, isn't it. Shows you how great a love God has for His creatures and creation that He thought it was worth His Son to bring us back into a right relationship with Him. Sola Deo Gloria!

We glorify God by giving Him thanks and praise, and living out our lives in the way He wishes. As Paul says in 1 Corinthians v. 31 "Therefore, whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do everything for the glory of God."

With the word "Therefore" Paul refers back to what he has been talking about in the last 3 chapters or so. By partaking of food with thankfulness, a person gives glory to God. Paul here extends this principle to the whole of the Christian life: everything - not only eating and drinking but every activity we engage in - is to glorify God and benefit the neighbor. In gratitude for God's mercy, the believer's whole life is to be a living sacrifice to God.

Pretty neat.

Pax

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Colossians 2:6-8 "Therefore, as you received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in him, rooted and built up in him and established in the faith, just as you were taught, abounding in thanksgiving. See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ."
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The "Holy Accounting 101" theory of the atonement.

One of you Holy Accountants please quantify several sins?

Suffering must also be quantified if Jesus "suffered more than any man."

I dunno. The Romans were pretty damned good at finding ways to make people suffer. Like Peter, who reportedly was crucified upside down. If you think crucifixion itself is bad, imagine the same kind of pain but instead of dying by slow asphyxiation (which is how crucifixion killed you in the end), you slowly die from blood collecting in your head.

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Reality is that which refuses to go away when I stop believing in it. - Philip K. Dick

You cannot reason a person out of position that they did not reason themselves into.

"Maybe you can't reason someone out of a position they haven't reasoned themselves into, but apparently you can get them to run away and stick their head back in the sand." - Robbie-James-Francis


Christian Fundamentalists and Muslim Fundamentalists seem to share the same basic goal - to overthrow the Constitutional Republic of the United States, and replace it with a fundamentalist theocracy.

We're not! He is!

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But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Titus 3:9-10

>The Romans were pretty damned good at finding ways to make people suffer.

Usually took several days to die. Jesus is reported to have died in record time. How could he have suffered more than a person to took 2 days?

I believe that somehow He suffered an eternity for each one of us in those few hours. We may never understand it. That's where faith comes in.

Are we worth it? "While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." I'd say no. That is why St. Paul said that Christ's love is overwhelming.

It was a incredible sacrifical gift and an extension of undeserved mercy and grace considering our condition.

Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Human nature is not a seeker of God . (I Cor 2:14 But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.”)

Mankind in its natural sin condition is disconnected, desynthesized, unattached, misaligned, bent, marred, corrupted, fallen short, has missed the mark, and flawed from the original design as it is written, there are none righteous no not one, none that understand, none seek good as all have become futile.

(Rom 3:10-18) When mankind examines its own depravity, behavior, or nature it is a slave to sin and cannot see the deteriorated condition that it’s in. Those that are sick cannot, or will not acknowledge they are in that state.


Below is an illustration of where we were before Chist than after.

1. You were once dead in your trespasses and sins but are alive in Christ Eph 2:1
2. You were walking in darkness but now are walking in the light Eph 5:8
3. You were children of disobedience but now sons of obedience. Eph 2:2
4. You were children of wraith but now are sons of a greater inheritance. Eph 2:3

Its an incredible transformation from darkness to light, from unrighteousness, to that of imputed righteousness and it is truly amazing grace due to the kind intention of His Sovereign Will and purpose that we are saved.

I find that this verse says a lot about Why we are worth it.

Romans 5:8
But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Somewhere in Romans it says that men are short of gods glory, and aren't good enough. I guess that just shows how much god loves us.