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is it a sin to be a crossdresser

can any one tell me is it a sin to be a crossdresser?
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9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind... 1 Thessalonians 5:22:

22Abstain from all appearance of evil.


based on this if a man dresses like a woman he is putting on the apperance of being effeminate which men are not supposed to be and therefore is sinning.
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Originally Posted by paul1953
can any one tell me is it a sin to be a crossdresser?
Wow. Do you really need to ask? I'm sorry, but I would think that the answer would be somewhat obvious.
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Originally Posted by Joshua J. Daigle
Wow. Do you really need to ask? I'm sorry, but I would think that the answer would be somewhat obvious.
The issue's not that clear-cut, though. For one thing, even if you take 'nor effeminate' to mean directly that men should never dress as women, there's still the whole issue of women dressing as men. If that's somewhow less 'sinful, then why?
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As far as dressing in women's clothing is concerned, I don't see how it could be, really, since God doesn't determine what "women's clothing" is, people do. What IS sinful in my view, however, is trying to convince yourself that you're something you're not. Dressing in what is widely viewed to be "women's clothing" is one thing, but telling yourself that you're "not really a man" or that you're "a man trapped in a woman's body" is to be completely dishonest with yourself. Maybe you're a man of more delicate nature than most, maybe you just like how you look in a dress, but none of that changes the fact that you're a man at heart. It is the act of trying to change that fundamental identity that is the true sin.
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The issue's not that clear-cut, though. For one thing, even if you take 'nor effeminate' to mean directly that men should never dress as women, there's still the whole issue of women dressing as men. If that's somewhow less 'sinful, then why?
i think it's pretty clear-cut. men shouldn't dress and act like women, women should dress and act like men. but who defines what is feminine and what is masculine behaviour??? some churches say wearing trousers for a woman is dressing like a man, while wearing a kilt for a man is not dressing like a woman!!?? i dunno, there's definitely some women's trousers you would catch me wearing for a million bucks. it's one of those issues that's 5 times harder than concrete to crack, i reckon.
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Originally Posted by pjw
i think it's pretty clear-cut. men shouldn't dress and act like women, women should dress and act like men. but who defines what is feminine and what is masculine behaviour??? some churches say wearing trousers for a woman is dressing like a man, while wearing a kilt for a man is not dressing like a woman!!?? i dunno, there's definitely some women's trousers you would catch me wearing for a million bucks. it's one of those issues that's 5 times harder than concrete to crack, i reckon.
I agree. The Bible is clear. The sin is in the act of dressing in women's clothing. When a culture has a clearly male or female mode of dress, then the sin of cross dressing is easier to define.

The real issue is the sin of sexual immorality. God's Word address homosexuality, beatiality, and crossdressing. These are forgiveable sins for those who repent and forsake them. That is the good news!

Deep down inside a person knows what is sin. The reasons for crossdressing come from problems in early youth, but with good counsel (Christian evangelical Bible-believing counsellors) the problem can be cured.
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effeminate

The word 'effeminate' is used in the King James Version of the Bible, but words are known to change meaning over time. We shouldn't read 'effeminate' to mean 'feminine' here - if we go to other translations, we see that it means 'men who sleep with men'.

Thus, the passage is not about crossdressing or appearing feminine.

There is another passage in the old testament (it escapes me where it is) about wearing clothes or items of the opposite sex, but as far as I understand it, this has to do with idolatry, and how the neighbouring people used crossdressing as part of worshipping their gods. Not about crossdressing in itself.

I had a chat with a priest a couple of years ago, too, and crossdressing was one topic that came up. He didn't think it was a sin - he had to fight his own prejudices, but he didn't find anything in the Bible to support a view that it's a sin to crossdress.
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I wear guys clothes all the time. They tend to be more comfortable and modest. Is that a sin?

I don't think its wrong. I have more problems with guys dressing in drag then I do with emo kids wearing girl's jeans.
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Originally Posted by Nienor
I wear guys clothes all the time. They tend to be more comfortable and modest. Is that a sin?

I don't think its wrong. I have more problems with guys dressing in drag then I do with emo kids wearing girl's jeans.
Is an emo kid wearing girl's jeans evil? I don't think so. Is it an incredibly dumb fashion statement? Yep, and so is that thing they do with their hair. What is that? Emo music's good for a certain mood, though, I'll give'em that.
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