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Originally Posted by Truthhound View Post
I too have had a sexual fascination with womens clothing since very early childhood. I was always ashamed of it (tried to keep it hidden) even before I knew any Bible teaching on the subject.

After a lifetime of struggle to understand this behavior, and to get free of it; I have finally gotten to a place where it is no longer a part of my life, and the guilt is gone. The guilt is gone because the practice of dressing as a woman for sexual arousal/role playing/masturbation etc. is over for me.

I see the causes for this behavior as follows.

1) General licence granted by God to perverse spirits to influence society in general (as a societal punishment if you will), because of modern society's general refusal of God. God "giving them over" to do such things that are "not convenient". See book of Romans for that.

2) Absent male role models in early childhood years.

3) Possible inappropriate sexual contact between mothers and sons in very early childhood years.

4) Excessive sexual stimuli in our modern culture.

5) Genetic predisposition of certain boys to passivity, fearing the male role.

6) Strong sexual interest trying to act itself out in a confused manner, mistaking the clothing, for contact with women themselves.

For a young Christian boy fearing the sin of fornication with a female partner, and badly confused about what he finds so arousing about women and their clothing in the first place, this is bound to happen in many many instances. It is IMO a lesser evil than fornication with an unmarried partner. Such a young man should look to marriage as the real answer to his problem.

In marriage however, the crossdressing PROBLEM will have to become an unlearned behavior. That is the insidious curse of this secret sin. Best never to start down this road if it can be avoided at all.

I shall conclude with this. Some interpretations of the Corinthian passage cited earlier, raise some very grave questions about whether a "catamite" or as the KJV renders it "effeminate" will ever inherit the kingdom of God. This very real fear led me to pursue deliverance until God finally set me free. I advise all cross dressers to do the same. Never give up. Deliverance will be given in the end.

Here's the last piece of the puzzle that helped me get free. Cross dressing is best understood IMO as a twisted kind of whoredom. It is a sin where you act out both the role of whore and whoremonger in one single confused identity destroying act, again and again and again. If whores and whoremongers are welcome in heaven, then I can see no reason why crossdressers would not be accepted as well. There is room in heaven for whores/whoremongers who repent. There is also room for cross dressers who repent.

1st Corinthians 6

9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

11And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

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Truthhound, I am transgender and have NO interest in sex. Living life as a female doesnt bring me a sexual thrill. It is just who I am. Also, though I dont think you mentioned it others did, I have NEVER had a sexual interest in man. So the whole lust and sins of the flesh dont apply to me. Still there are those passages. Through research of translations I feel each of those were directed at very specific groups of people or mistranslated. I know I am in the minority of this and am gratefull for those that are going to or have already tried to convince me I am wrong about this; I am gratefull that there are those who love me enough to try to save me. All I can say is I pray daily now for God just to show me how he wants to live and this is what I am being shown. Praying to learn to be more boyish or manish never worked. Also befor it is mentioned or because it has been mentioned before, I do believe that God has the power to do anything. I just feel this is what He wants of me.
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Originally Posted by GenetoJean View Post
Truthhound, I am transgender and have NO interest in sex. Living life as a female doesnt bring me a sexual thrill. It is just who I am. Also, though I dont think you mentioned it others did, I have NEVER had a sexual interest in man. So the whole lust and sins of the flesh dont apply to me. Still there are those passages. Through research of translations I feel each of those were directed at very specific groups of people or mistranslated. I know I am in the minority of this and am gratefull for those that are going to or have already tried to convince me I am wrong about this; I am gratefull that there are those who love me enough to try to save me. All I can say is I pray daily now for God just to show me how he wants to live and this is what I am being shown. Praying to learn to be more boyish or manish never worked. Also befor it is mentioned or because it has been mentioned before, I do believe that God has the power to do anything. I just feel this is what He wants of me.
"*[[1Co 7:4]] NET* It is not the wife who has the rights to her own body, but the husband. In the same way, it is not the husband who has the rights to his own body, but the wife."

When you got married, you gave up the rights to your own body. Your wife now has the Biblical right to veto any such notions which you might be entertaining re: "leaving your first estate". Not a very wise plan to leave one's "first estate". The call of sexual disatisfaction, sexual identity issues, sexual lust etc. etc. etc. are NOT ever valid justification for "leaving one's first estate", no matter who you are.
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"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgement of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire." Jude verses 6,7
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Originally Posted by Truthhound View Post
"*[[1Co 7:4]] NET* It is not the wife who has the rights to her own body, but the husband. In the same way, it is not the husband who has the rights to his own body, but the wife."

When you got married, you gave up the rights to your own body. Your wife now has the Biblical right to veto any such notions which you might be entertaining re: "leaving your first estate". Not a very wise plan to leave one's "first estate". The call of sexual disatisfaction, sexual identity issues, sexual lust etc. etc. etc. are NOT ever valid justification for "leaving one's first estate", no matter who you are.
If it were only that simple. Being transgender isn't just a notion you wake up with one morning. It is something I have lived with for as long as I can remember. My wife has been to my therapist with me. She accepts this is who I am. Is she happy about it? No. Just like she wouldn't be happy if I had a chronic illness.
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Originally Posted by GenetoJean View Post
If it were only that simple. Being transgender isn't just a notion you wake up with one morning. It is something I have lived with for as long as I can remember. My wife has been to my therapist with me. She accepts this is who I am. Is she happy about it? No. Just like she wouldn't be happy if I had a chronic illness.
I'm well aware of the deep rooted chronic nature of the sin of crossdressing. The emotional underpinnings of this practice I became aware of much later in life. I have battled this thing for decades (since early childhood) and always assumed it to be simply a lust issue. How wrong I was. As a free man now I wish to share what I have learned in hopes of freeing others as well. What literally took me decades to learn, I'm guessing could be learned within a year or less by anyone wanting to break free as well.
Briefly then, I see the path to freedom and release from this deadly vice as happening in three stages. Deliverance first in spirit, second in body, and lastly in soul itself (the very seat of our affections). I will be speaking to you Jene, but more importantly I will be speaking to the much wider readership of this thread. I will post within a few days on the first of the needed deliverances, "The deliverance of the spirit". C U soon. God bless you brother.

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I find it interesting that most men who have posted in this thread say that Crossdressing is sinning. What about for comfort? What about in the privacy of your own home?
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"For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members." Romans 7:22,23
The sin of crossdressing goes so deep and is so invasive of our whole body soul and spirit, that the only pure area we still possess is that spirit part of us that was regenerated when when we first became Christians. That part within us that truly can take delight in pleasing God and grasping the blessed truth found in God's Word. We must learn to ignore the protests of our raging, selfish bodies and souls (affections). They can be delivered eventually as well, but we need to get our spirits (our minds) delivered first.
As we learn from the passage cited in Romans above, even the great Apostle Paul experienced firsthand what it was like to have a pure mind trapped in a sinning disobedient body. I assure you that this is a much better place to be then in a sinning body that is also under the control of a sinning mind. The MIND (our spirit) needs fixing first. I wish to keep these posts short and readable. I'll talk about how to fix our minds the next time I post.

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"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1st John 1: 8,9,10
Confession of our sin is the first step of deliverance. We must take full ownership of the sin of crossdressing, not excusing it, not justifying it, not lying about it, not blaming others for it, not pretending that it is somehow OK for us to continue living with this sinful pleasure. We need to confess this first of all to God and to ourselves and for those of us who have hidden this sin within our marriages, we will need to come clean with our spouses as well. God obligates himself to forgive if we confess our sin, and accept the Bible's teaching on this practice as the final authority to define and condemn this practice for what it is. SIN!
One more thing. Such a confession is invalid if the crossdresser is unwilling to forsake his "STASH" of womens clothing. Maintaining a secret stash, reading materials or anything else related to this sinful ritual is an INVALID, INCOMPLETE confession. An honest PURGE must go hand in hand with this confession if the spirit is to be cleansed and delivered.
"He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and FORSAKETH them shall have mercy." Proverbs 28:13
Now comes the hard part. How do we stay clean? How do we STOP falling back into the sin and living in that hellish cycle of .....purging/confession......failure again and again and again? I will begin to address that issue in my next post when I share what I have learned about the second stage of the deliverance we need which is "the deliverance of the BODY" from the sin of crossdressing.
One final remark here. I have learned that it is still better and more pleasing to God for a crossdresser to try and fail no matter how many times to get free, instead of giving up and being devoured forever by this sin. There is hope. There is deliverance. This thing can be beaten.

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Philippians 3:19 Their end is destruction, their god is the belly, they exult in their shame, and they think about earthly things.
Lots of people need to learn to gain control of their bodies, not just crossdressers. 30% of people in USA are obese and Canada is not far behind. In spite of the fact that the wrong kinds of food are easier to aquire than ever (drivethrough food for example), and in spite of the fact that such food is advertized to us hundreds of times every day; many many people still find the will to rise up and just say no to this nutritional garbage and they change their lives for the better. They choose the discipline of exercise DESPITE the initial protests of their own bodies and they choose to learn how to eat good food and how to be satisfied with that instead. Crossdressers generally know how to diet. Crossdressers need simply apply that same determination and will to the business of CLOTHING their bodies as they do when FEEDING their bodies. It CAN be done!
The apostle Paul in 1st Corinthians 9:27 talks about his need to SUBDUE his own body in order to serve God successfully, and not end up as a castaway. We crossdressers and FORMER crossdressers need to do exactly as he did. As I stated earlier, this must be done in SPITE of the fact that our affections (our very souls) are still undelivered at this point, and that deep longing for all things feminine remains as strong as ever. Deliverance of the soul (our affections themselves) will be the final thing I address.
A couple more tips here on simply getting free from the ACT itself of dressing up as a woman. Stop shaving bodily hair on the legs and chest if that is your practice. Make bodily exercise a part of your daily routine. Make occasional prayer and FASTING a routine part of your life as well. These are all measures to remind your own flesh that YOU ARE IN CHARGE of the bodily temple God had entrusted you with, and that neither your belly nor your sexuality is going to be giving the orders anymore. One of the fruits of the Spirit is SELF-CONTROL. If we are saved we are indwelt with this Holy Spirit of God. The POWER to exercise this self-control is available to EVERY christian, CROSSDRESSERS INCLUDED!

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Truthbound, you seem very passionate about this subject. Why?
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