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17th December 2002, 09:34 PM
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To any athiests or agnostics,
I challenge anyone who thinks that science disproves the bible. Because it doesn't, and I'm willing to back up that statement. Reply to this message if anyone thinks there is evidence for The Big Bang, evolution, or anything else that is anti-bible and anti-science and I will personally make sure that you never use that against a new christian who doesn't absolutely know every little trick that you use on the likes of them. And to any christian that has a question about bible-science, feel free to ask me. I'll do my best to answer your question. And (to you athiests again) don't waste my time with rediculous questions like: what if nothing exists, what if this life is all one big dream and other things. I hope that I can clear up any misunderstandings about how science and the bible conradict each other. Later
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17th December 2002, 09:37 PM
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How old is the universe? and how do you know that?
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17th December 2002, 09:44 PM
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17th December 2002, 09:47 PM
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I mean, obviously, God could have poofed everything into existance five minutes ago, creating us with memories and everything. However, it seems to me that I should assume that the evidence I find in the world around me is true evidence.
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17th December 2002, 09:50 PM
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cosmic background radiation, the fact that the universe is expanding, the laws of thermodynamics, the fact that one of the three solution sets to Einstein's relativity equations has the universe expanding, the speed of light as a limiting information carrier and the fact that Big Bang cosmology predicts the ratios of hydrogen and helium in the observable universe.
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17th December 2002, 09:52 PM
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I don't really know exactly how old the universe is, but we can make a rough estimate of about 6000 years old. Why, because we know (according to Caeser Augustus's census) that Jesus lived about 2000 years ago. Using that information and the information provided by the greatest history book in the world, the bible, we can use the recorded age and recoreded deaths of Jesus's ancestors to add up the years from Jesus all the way to Adam. From there to the creation was only six days. If your confused I will give this example:
Adam was 130 yrs old when he begat Seth
Seth was 105 yrs old when he begat Enosh
Enosh was 90 yrs old when he begat Kenan
and so on and so forth...
all the way to Jesus!
so all we have to do is add up all those years plus the 2000 years since Jesus lived and voila!!! The age of the earth.
I hope that answered your question, and I'd be happy to have more.
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17th December 2002, 09:56 PM
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To Chuck Darwin,
I don't really know exactly how old the universe is, but we can make a rough estimate of about 6000 years old. Why, because we know (according to Caeser Augustus's census) that Jesus lived about 2000 years ago. Using that information and the information provided by the greatest history book in the world, the bible, we can use the recorded age and recoreded deaths of Jesus's ancestors to add up the years from Jesus all the way to Adam. From there to the creation was only six days. If your confused I will give this example:
Adam was 130 yrs old when he begat Seth
Seth was 105 yrs old when he begat Enosh
Enosh was 90 yrs old when he begat Kenan
and so on and so forth...
all the way to Jesus!
so all we have to do is add up all those years plus the 2000 years since Jesus lived and voila!!! The age of the earth.
I hope that answered your question, and I'd be happy to have more.
Yeah thats cool but...isnt this about science? 
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17th December 2002, 09:59 PM
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so all we have to do is add up all those years plus the 2000 years since Jesus lived and voila!!! The age of the earth.
But I read another creation story which says that the beginning of days was at least a thousand generations ago. As such, not being able to tell one creation story from another without help, it seems to me I should rely, instead, on physical evidence. Could you offer some physical evidence for the age of the earth? | | |
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