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19th May 2006, 05:29 PM
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Reps: 2,824 (power: 13) | | Originally Posted by lily00 God didn't create the viruses. Man did. God allowed it because it has increased many people's strength and faith through troubled times. Satan is out to destroy though... He wants people to get sick... Sometimes I think depression is a deadly virus. It gets so bad you want to kill yourself because you don't feel like you are worth anything...
Since the logic of this doesnt seem to follow though with some people, why was gods design so bad that if one of his creations broke his rules, you know like taking an apple when he said not to, his entire creation totally goes down the tubes destroying itself. Is Gods creation even worse than Bill Gates' windows?
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19th May 2006, 05:31 PM
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Reps: 860 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by JohnR7 So how can we trust science if they can not even solve the easy stuff like the common cold? How can we trust them to resolve the more complex issues?
The common cold is not common. The virus mutates in every new generation, so it is impossible to make an antidote. |
19th May 2006, 05:32 PM
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Reps: 860 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by JohnR7 They say that everyone dies sooner or later. So you ask why did they die the way they did, when they did at that point in their life. At least that is what I always ask.
You say viruses are a way to cleanse the world of the sinful, tehrefore you believe people that die from viruses are going to hell. What happens when people YOU love go to hell and you never get to see them again? |
19th May 2006, 05:33 PM
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Reps: 860 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by lily00 God didn't create the viruses. Man did. God allowed it because it has increased many people's strength and faith through troubled times. Satan is out to destroy though... He wants people to get sick... Sometimes I think depression is a deadly virus. It gets so bad you want to kill yourself because you don't feel like you are worth anything...
Hmm, so my bipolarism is a virus too? I think it was the messed up childhood that I lived... |
19th May 2006, 05:38 PM
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Reps: 129 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by lily00 God didn't create the viruses. Man did. God allowed it because it has increased many people's strength and faith through troubled times. Satan is out to destroy though... He wants people to get sick... Sometimes I think depression is a deadly virus. It gets so bad you want to kill yourself because you don't feel like you are worth anything...
lily00, I believe this post is a cry for help. I'm not being sarcastic. I think you should speak with a parent or teacher or minister; someone you trust. Depression can be a very serious condition, but it can be treated. Your assertions about man "creating viruses" can be addressed later.
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19th May 2006, 06:11 PM
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Reps: 201,770,799,312,244,992 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by SteelEdge Forgive me if this topic has been raised many times before.
Why were deadly viruses and bacteria included in the grand design? Doesn't seem too intelligent to me, more like sadistic.
I can't see how these organisms are of much benefit to mankind.
If it was a result of the so called fall, why would a loving god inflict this upon those who had been created "in his image"?
God creates lots of things that are potentially deadly; jelly fish, spiders, lions, etc......and that includes bacteria.
Sometimes God may use such things to punish man for sin. Other times, it's just misfortune that man runs into one of these things. God has made a wide spectrum of things, some which are beautiful, some deadly, some which are both beautiful and deadly, like brightly colored snakes. |
19th May 2006, 06:15 PM
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Reps: 860 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by shinbits God creates lots of things that are potentially deadly; jelly fish, spiders, lions, etc......and that includes bacteria.
Sometimes God may use such things to punish man for sin. Other times, it's just misfortune that man runs into one of these things. God has made a wide spectrum of things, some which are beautiful, some deadly, some which are both beautiful and deadly, like brightly colored snakes.
The whole concept of the Christian God punishing people seems to contradict his very nature. |
19th May 2006, 06:15 PM
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Reps: 12,682 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Edx why was gods design so bad that if one of his creations broke his rules, you know like taking an apple when he said not to, his entire creation totally goes down the tubes destroying itself. Is Gods creation even worse than Bill Gates' windows?
The answer to this is because God so loved that world.
John 3:16-17
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. [17] For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
Also, Adam would not really have had free will if he was not actually able to sin and rebell against God. We love God because of choice and we have freedom to decide one way or the other. Otherwise we would be slaves or robots. |
19th May 2006, 06:19 PM
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Reps: 12,682 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Abongil The whole concept of the Christian God punishing people seems to contradict his very nature.
They bring it on themselves. He loves people and He also is a God of Justice. That is why He had to find a way to bring about forgiveness. He gave His Son so that we could be forgiven.
1 Cor. 15:21
For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead.
Romans 5:15
But the free gift is not like the offense. For if by the one man's offense many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many. |
19th May 2006, 06:20 PM
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Reps: 2,824 (power: 13) | | Originally Posted by JohnR7 The answer to this is because God so loved that world.
John 3:16-17
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. [17] For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
I fail to see how this is relevant. *sigh* Here we go again. Also, Adam would not really have had free will if he was not actually able to sin and rebell against God. We love God because of choice and we have freedom to decide one way or the other. Otherwise we would be slaves or robots.
Sorry but again, what did you think you were replying to?
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