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19th May 2006, 06:44 AM
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The polls show that the vast majority of the people in this country are either creationists or theistic evolutionists. It has been shown that the vast majority of the people in this country want creationism and theistic evolution taught in our schools. Why is it then, when public opinion runs the way it does, that the only evolution that is taught is atheistic evolution? In a system where the majority is to rule, why does 5% of the people dictate to the other 95 % what goes on in our schools and what they teach our children?
Why is it that atheists believe that they are right and that everyone else is wrong, when atheists make up so small of a part of the population? Do they really feel that the vast majority can be wrong about something and that only a select few can somehow be privy to the truth? Is it really a democracy if you allow a small minority to dictate policy to the majority of the people? Are not small groups usually special interest groups that do not care about what benifits society as a whole? Does not society have the right to protect itself from people that want to infringe upon them like this?
Does this even line up with evolutionary thinking that a small minority has more control and influence on the population than the majority does?  |
19th May 2006, 06:55 AM
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19th May 2006, 07:21 AM
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What seperation of church and state? Is this a democracy or not? Are we going to allow 5% of the people who are atheists dictate to the other 95% of the people what they should or should not allow their children to be taught? Do parents not have some say in the education of their children? If you want to seperate church and state, then get the state out of our church and quit trying to dictate to us what we can or can not teach our children.
The majority here tend to be more silent and the minority tend to be more vocal. But if we put this up for a vote, then the majority of the people believe in theistic evolution or creationism and believe that is what they should teach in our schools. |
19th May 2006, 07:22 AM
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Just curious: do you have a source for this? Originally Posted by JohnR7 Why is it then, when public opinion runs the way it does, that the only evolution that is taught is atheistic evolution?
What is taught in school is not "atheistic evolution", but rather "agnostic evolution". Originally Posted by JohnR7 Why is it that atheists believe that they are right and that everyone else is wrong
Do they? |
19th May 2006, 07:40 AM
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Reps: 6,155 (power: 16) | | Originally Posted by JohnR7 The polls show that the vast majority of the people in this country are either creationists or theistic evolutionists. It has been shown that the vast majority of the people in this country want creationism and theistic evolution taught in our schools. Why is it then, when public opinion runs the way it does, that the only evolution that is taught is atheistic evolution? In a system where the majority is to rule, why does 5% of the people dictate to the other 95 % what goes on in our schools and what they teach our children?
Why is it that atheists believe that they are right and that everyone else is wrong, when atheists make up so small of a part of the population? Do they really feel that the vast majority can be wrong about something and that only a select few can somehow be privy to the truth? Is it really a democracy if you allow a small minority to dictate policy to the majority of the people? Are not small groups usually special interest groups that do not care about what benifits society as a whole? Does not society have the right to protect itself from people that want to infringe upon them like this?
Does this even line up with evolutionary thinking that a small minority has more control and influence on the population than the majority does?
This is so bad on so many levels. Please back up even a few of your claims and I'll respond with a thoughtful answer.
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19th May 2006, 07:43 AM
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Reps: 6,155 (power: 16) | | Originally Posted by JohnR7 If you want to seperate church and state, then get the state out of our church and quit trying to dictate to us what we can or can not teach our children.
Teach your children whatever you want to, just don't expect the taxpayers to pay for one religious version of events over another. Also, the state is out of the church--tax-free status anyone?
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Reps: 199 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by JohnR7 If you want to seperate church and state, then get the state out of our church and quit trying to dictate to us what we can or can not teach our children.
Since when has the state dictated what you can teach in a church?
How is the state hindering churches in the US? Don't they get tax breaks and other benefits? |
19th May 2006, 08:02 AM
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Reps: 4,008 (power: 14) | | Originally Posted by JohnR7 The polls show that the vast majority of the people in this country are either creationists or theistic evolutionists. It has been shown that the vast majority of the people in this country want creationism and theistic evolution taught in our schools. Why is it then, when public opinion runs the way it does, that the only evolution that is taught is atheistic evolution? In a system where the majority is to rule, why does 5% of the people dictate to the other 95 % what goes on in our schools and what they teach our children?
Why is it that atheists believe that they are right and that everyone else is wrong, when atheists make up so small of a part of the population? Do they really feel that the vast majority can be wrong about something and that only a select few can somehow be privy to the truth? Is it really a democracy if you allow a small minority to dictate policy to the majority of the people? Are not small groups usually special interest groups that do not care about what benifits society as a whole? Does not society have the right to protect itself from people that want to infringe upon them like this?
Does this even line up with evolutionary thinking that a small minority has more control and influence on the population than the majority does?
Why stop there? Why don't you complain about atheistic chemistry, atheistic geology, etc... Let's face it, you have no argument since it's based on a flawed premise, evolution isn't atheistic. That's just one glaring problem of many in your posts.
Do you think that since the majority of Americans believe Saddam attacked us during 9-11, that's what we should teach in History classes? What about the large majority of Americans that think the reason why we have seasons is because it's due to the distance from the Sun to the Earth. Should we teach their ignorant beliefs since the majority believe in it? Come on, John. You can do better than this. Please try to think through your post before you post it. |
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Reps: 692,329,274,203,046 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by JohnR7 What seperation of church and state?
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