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When you apply all this to your Secular Humanistic Uniformitarian Evolutionistic theorizing, then maybe-----just maybe------I'll be sympathetic to your diatribes..... NOT BEFORE. As for the rest of your drivel, ANYBODY------no matter what they actually believe can call himself "a christian." The fact remains that 200 years ago, they had neither the research nor the technology to disprove the FLOOD. They didn't even know about thumb prints or DNA or the need for gasoline. So please stick a banana in it fella, your arrogance is showing.
200 years ago was the early 1800's and the birth of modern Geology. When Christian geologists tried to find evidence for the global flood, what they found instead was evidence against the flood. Unlike yourself, they were able to swallow their pride and acknolwedge that they had been wrong. You could learn a valuable lesson in humilty from such people, something your religion is supposed to value is it not?
Thumb prints, DNA and gasoline have absoutely nothing todo with geology.
In the end, it all boils down to fear. You have failed time and time again to understand even the most basic principles of science. And when presented with these unknowns, you lash out, not with reason or logic, but with emotional rhetoric. I cannot imagine what it would be like to live with such fear, and you have my pity that you must suffer it.
200 years ago was the early 1800's and the birth of modern Geology. When Christian geologists tried to find evidence for the global flood, what they found instead was evidence against the flood. Unlike yourself, they were able to swallow their pride and acknolwedge that they had been wrong. You could learn a valuable lesson in humilty from such people, something your religion is supposed to value is it not?
Thumb prints, DNA and gasoline have absoutely nothing todo with geology.
In the end, it all boils down to fear. You have failed time and time again to understand even the most basic principles of science. And when presented with these unknowns, you lash out, not with reason or logic, but with emotional rhetoric. I cannot imagine what it would be like to live with such fear, and you have my pity that you must suffer it.
This is ONLY because the general notion accepted at that time was that the FLOOD was but a gentle rising of water, so when the FLOOD abated, Noah would have had no problems to deal with. The amature geologists ----- and most of them were but amatures because they had other professions where they made money, saw that such a FLOOD could not account for what they saw. They were right about SUCH A FLOOD. But that is where they left it and that is why there is this contention today.
This is ONLY because the general notion accepted at that time was that the FLOOD was but a gentle rising of water. So when the FLOOD abated Noah would have had no problems to deal with. The amature geologists ----- and most of them were but amatures because they had other professions where they made money saw that such a FLOOD could not account for what they saw. They were right about SUCH A FLOOD. But that is where they left it and that is why there is this contention today.
Why must you make excuses instead of accepting reality? This is the flimisest flood argument I have ever seen. They thought it was the wrong type of flood? Come on Nip, if this is the basis of your dismissal of your forefathers work, then your arguement is in worse shape than I thought.
Do you have actual evidence, that is to say, empirical, verifiable, logically consistent evidence for a global flood? Because to date, there is none except absolute garbage like the RATE project and other fluff peices which fall apart with only the slightest of questioning
This is ONLY because the general notion accepted at that time was that the FLOOD was but a gentle rising of water, so when the FLOOD abated, Noah would have had no problems to deal with. The amature geologists ----- and most of them were but amatures because they had other professions where they made money, saw that such a FLOOD could not account for what they saw. They were right about SUCH A FLOOD. But that is where they left it and that is why there is this contention today.
Dude, you do not have a single, solitary clue what you are talking about. The above is the YEC-apologetic version of the b.s. I used to write in grade school when we had an essay test and I hadn't so much as glanced at the material.
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What's with all the personal snide remarks of late?
I also noticed his reducing these discussions to taking a lot of personal swipes at others. If he doesn't like your position, he doesn't address the position, he attacks the person.
We should all start reporting these personal attack posts. They are against the rules.
Well, lets be honest here, its PBS. If we lived in a society that valued inteligence, people would watch more shows like NOVA. However, we do not, and PBS is pretty much bottom of the barrel when it comes to viewership. Most of the people who see this will be people that already know about the trial, and for the most part, that already understand and accept the ToE.
Hopefully though it will get shown in some classroms. It may be too late for the population at large, but theres always time in the upcoming generations.
Nova is fantastic. What's amazing, though, is its production value. Despite the low viewership it manages to pull off an incredibly clean and good-looking, good-sounding production.
This is ONLY because the general notion accepted at that time was that the FLOOD was but a gentle rising of water, so when the FLOOD abated, Noah would have had no problems to deal with. The amature geologists ----- and most of them were but amatures because they had other professions where they made money, saw that such a FLOOD could not account for what they saw. They were right about SUCH A FLOOD. But that is where they left it and that is why there is this contention today.
wow, you totally made that up on the spot, eh? any evidence to support your claims? no? didn't think so.
Why must you make excuses instead of accepting reality? This is the flimisest flood argument I have ever seen. They thought it was the wrong type of flood? Come on Nip, if this is the basis of your dismissal of your forefathers work, then your arguement is in worse shape than I thought.
Do you have actual evidence, that is to say, empirical, verifiable, logically consistent evidence for a global flood? Because to date, there is none except absolute garbage like the RATE project and other fluff peices which fall apart with only the slightest of questioning
Why do you not accept the reality of what I say, but insist on mocking me. The evidence is slowly being compiled. When one looks at any one thing, that one thing may appear trival; however, when more and more trival things start to fit together ----- then you will likely still not accept...... You have already accepted your own set of trivia to prop up evolution. That is your choice. Evolution is not endorced by GOD.
Well not your personal version of God. The numerous Christians that accept the TOE seem to worship a different god than you.
At least though you admit there is no evidence. If they ever get finished "compiling" it, then let me know.
Honestly, if you'd actually just come out and say that "there is no evidence, you just have to take it on faith" I could at least respect you for being honest. I still wouldn't agree, but you'd at least demonstrate some integrity.
Nova is fantastic. What's amazing, though, is its production value. Despite the low viewership it manages to pull off an incredibly clean and good-looking, good-sounding production.
Not at all. The "Tranquil Theory" was first suggested by Swedist botanist , Carolus Linnaeus (1707-1778). It was promoted by the Scottish minister, John Fleming in 1826.....
Charles Lyell, loved the Fleming's theory because it didn't interfer with that of his own -----Uniformitarian philosphical outlook of nature.....
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