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I think it is wonderful to see bias opinion in action. And any judge who would prevent something from being expressed based on the opinion that such will cause students to identify with a particular religious belief (as though that really matters) is bias and has demonstrated a contempt for knowledge and the pursuit of truth.
Upholding the constitution is a contempt for knowledge and the pursuit of truth?
He places governmental restrictions above freedom of thought, expression, and religion.
How is preventing a public school system from unconstitutional behaviour restricting freedom of thought, expression, and religion?
__________________ It is an established maxim and moral that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false is guilty of falsehood, and the accidental truth of the assertion does not justify or excuse him.
-- Abraham Lincoln
They that would give up essential liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
-- Ben Franklin
I remember when John Stewart's show did a little piece on the Dover trial. Most amusing.
So, York County will be the focus of a NOVA program. Not bad, not bad.
My hope is that all the folks from both sides of the issues (the parents, the school kids, the now ex-members of the school board, the school board members who resigned, etc, etc) will agree to be interviewed and have their stories recorded.
If you see some nut in the background wearing a cricket outfit and jumping up and down with a sign that says "CF Rocks!" that'll be me.
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And only a zealot could continue to fail to understand why something that has been demonstrated to NOT BE SCIENCE should ever be taught in a science class.
How can you not grasp this simple concept. We do not teach about lephrecauns in Biology because they are not related to biology, and nor do we teach religion in biology, because, surprise, it is not related to biology. A descion made by A CHRISTIAN JUDGE!
Nip, this is an out and out lie. You know it, I know it. The Global flood was disproven 200 years ago, BY CHRISTIANS! Yet you continue to say this, and continue to fail utterly to produce any actual evidence to the contrary. Put up or shut up. Present evidence, or stop speaking this inanity.
Seriously, go out and read something new other than the same tired old drivel you have been spouting since I came to this board. Its ridiculous how much time and effort people have wasted talking to someone who seems to be compeltely unable to comprehend anything not told to him in his Bible.
When you apply all this to your Secular Humanistic Uniformitarian Evolutionistic theorizing, then maybe-----just maybe------I'll be sympathetic to your diatribes..... NOT BEFORE. As for the rest of your drivel, ANYBODY------no matter what they actually believe can call himself "a christian." The fact remains that 200 years ago, they had neither the research nor the technology to disprove the FLOOD. They didn't even know about thumb prints or DNA or the need for gasoline. So please stick a banana in it fella, your arrogance is showing.
Last edited by LittleNipper; 18th May 2006 at 10:41 AM.
I think you need to work on your stage presence before we can let you play yourself.
What's with all the personal snide remarks of late?
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"Yes, the long war on Christianity. I pray that one day we may live in an America where Christians can worship freely! In broad daylight! Openly wearing the symbols of their religion…. perhaps around their necks? And maybe — dare I dream it? — maybe one day there can be an openly Christian President. Or, perhaps, 43 of them. Consecutively." - Jon Stewart
Upholding the constitution is a contempt for knowledge and the pursuit of truth?
How is preventing a public school system from unconstitutional behaviour restricting freedom of thought, expression, and religion?
Showing contempt for the Constitution begins when people say they may interpret that document outside it's historic environment. You tell ME just who read what in EVERY public instition openly and without ridicule from BEFORE the radification of the Constitution UNTIL 1963. It was the BIBLE. If that was good enough for George Washinton and Daniel Webster, it is most certainly good enough for me. And if you are silly enough to drag slavery into this issue, I'll have YOU remember that the Constitution needed an Amendment added. So perhaps the DIVIDED Supreme Court should have suggested that before they acted as vigilanties on an issue that had already been decided unanimously in 1897 by the Supreme Court. Show contempt! I'll show contempt for people who have the sick notion that law is all about politics and the latest fashion. Bring something back again and again until one gets the answer they want----that is contempt sir. If they wanted the BIBLE out of Public schools it should have been done legally with an amendment as with slavery and the woman's vote. I cannot tell you that you must believe as I believe, but you have no right to suggest that my beliefs cannot and should not be expressed in any institution of learning as long as there is freedom of speech, expression, and religion in the United States. Anthing less is tyranny in action.
Showing contempt for the Constitution begins when people say they may interpret that document outside it's historic environment. You tell ME just who read what in EVERY public instition openly and without ridicule from BEFORE the radification of the Constitution UNTIL 1963. It was the BIBLE. If that was good enough for George Washinton and Daniel Webster, it is most certainly good enough for me. And if you are silly enough to drag slavery into this issue, I'll have YOU remember that the Constitution needed an Amendment added. So perhaps the DIVIDED Supreme Court should have suggested that before they acted as vigilanties on an issue that had already been decided unanimously in 1897 by the Supreme Court. Show contempt! I'll show contempt for people who have the sick notion that law is all about politics and the latest fashion. Bring something back again and again until one gets the answer they want----that is contempt sir. If they wanted the BIBLE out of Public schools it should have been done legally with an amendment as with slavery and the woman's vote. I cannot tell you that you must believe as I believe, but you have no right to suggest that my beliefs cannot and should not be expressed in any institution of learning as long as there is freedom of speech, expression, and religion in the United States. Anthing less is tyranny in action.
They did. It's the first one.
__________________ It is an established maxim and moral that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false is guilty of falsehood, and the accidental truth of the assertion does not justify or excuse him.
-- Abraham Lincoln
They that would give up essential liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
-- Ben Franklin
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