Seperation of Church and State

This is what is meant by the term theory in common use only. In science, theories must be fully supported by all known facts in order to be considered valid.

I don't know of anyone except you Christians here who thinks that anyone thinks this in the first place!

Anything that fails to teach the necessity of God is a religion? I hate to break it to you, Stormy, but no scientific theory teaches the necessity of God. Not evolution, nor gravity, nor relativity. None of them.

iifrit...
Life (by it's biological definition)... Has not been duplicated
in the test tube yet. More than just Christians believe in
a creator.

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O'siyo Oginalii Tsilugi !!! I will draw thorns from your feet. We will walk the White Path of Life together. Like a brother of my own blood, I will love you. I will wipe tears from your eyes. When you are sad, I will put your aching heart to rest. May you walk in peace and harmony

Iggy the Magic Elf hears your plea and will send down his Trampoline of Protection over your house, deflecting the fire and brimstone and bouncing it over into your neighbor's yard.

Praise Iggy.

I DON'T propose to teach Creationism as scientific fact.  Even Creationists don't support this.  Creationists will readily admit that their man made assumptions and conclusions are sometimes erroneous.  The only thing that they hold to be inerrant is the Bible.

I DO propose to give each theory a fair representation and let the students decide for themselves.  If nothing else, it will give the students who still choose to believe in Evolution a better understanding of Creationism and how to debate against it more logically. 

So you should agree that Creationism should be taught because IT is 'a scientific theory that has facts to support it.'

Why? We founded this as a Christian Nation. Let the Islams go found their own nation. The Pilgrams came over to American for the "Glory of God, and Advancement of the Christian Faith".

When we gave up the Mayflower Compact for the Constitution, it was because we believed the Constitution would give us protection from religious persecution from the Government.

Perhaps it did for a while, right up 'tell this modern supreme court turned the constitution into toilet paper.

They make the worst decisions, then they will call up georgetown law school and tell them to send a class of students to come over and admire them and make them feel good about themselves.

They stay as far away as they can from the congress and the senete, when they make stupid decisions like that. It is time to put this check and balance thing to work and get the legislative brance to get the judical branch back under control.

Or maybe just admit that mans attempt to form a Government just plain does not work, and it is time to seek after God and to follow HIS Government.

Isaiah 9:6
    For unto us a Child is born,
    Unto us a Son is given;
    And the government will be upon His shoulder.
    And His name will be called
    Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
    Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

 



 

 

Creationism is a matter of FAITH. In no way should it be included in a Science Curriculum.

Unless of course you'd like to include...

Shinto Creation Stories

After the creation of Heaven and earth, Divine Beings were produced between them.

Hence it is said that when the world began to be created, the soil of which lands were composed floated about in a manner which might be compared to the floating of a fish sporting on the surface of the water.

At this time a certain thing was produced between Heaven and Earth. It was in form like a reed-shoot. Now this became transformed into a God, and was called Kuni-toko-tachi no Mikoto. 1

Next there was Kuni no sa-tsuchi no Mikoto, 2 and next Toyo-kumu-nu no Mikoto, 3 in all three deities.

These were pure males spontaneously developed by the operation of the principle of Heaven. 4

The next Deities who came into being were Uhiji-ni no Mikoto and Suhiji-ni no Mikoto, also called Uhiji-ne no Mikoto and Suhiji-ne no Mikoto. 5

The next Deities which came into being were Oho-to nochi no Mikoto and Oho-to mahe no Mikoto.

The next Deities which came into being were Izanagi no Mikoto and Izanami no Mikoto. 6

These make eight Deities in all. Being formed by the mutual action of the Heavenly and Earthly principles, they were made male and female. From Kuni no toko-tachi no Mikoto to Izanagi no Mikoto and Izanami no Mikoto are called the seven generations of the age of the Gods.

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Creation Myth from the Kono People of Guinea
In the beginning, there was darkness. And in it lived Death, called Sa, with his wife and daughter. The three of them were all that was. There was nowhere for them to live comfortably, so Sa started it. He used his magic power, and he made an endless mud sea. In this mud place, Sa built his house. After that, the God Ala-tan-gana came to visit Sa. He found Sa‚s house dirty and dark. Alatangana thought Sa should do better than that, and he said so. „Nothing can live in such a place,‰ the God told Sa. „This house needs fixing up. Everything is too dark.‰ So Alatangana thought he‚d better take things in hand. He made the mud solid. We know it now as Earth. „The earth feels sad,‰ God said. „I will make plants and animals to live on it.‰ So he did. Now this work of God Alatangana made Sa very happy. He felt quite friendly toward the God for all of his help, and he welcomed him into his house. It was not long before Alatangana asked Sa for the hand of his daughter in marriage. Sa made excuses, for he was fond of his daughter and did not want to lose her just yet. And finally, Sa had to say no. But by this time, Alatangana had talked with the young woman. They came to their own understanding. They married in secret. And then they ran off to get away from Sa‚s anger. They escaped to a far corner of the new earth. There they were quite content. It was not long before they had a house full of children. There were seven girls and seven boys. There were three boys and three girls who were black. And there were four boys and four girls who were white. Thus there were six black children and eight white children that were all the sons and daughters of the God Alatangana and Sa‚a only child.

A strange thing happened. These children spoke different languages. Their parents could not understand them. The God Alatangana didn‚t know what to make of it. Finally, he went off to ask Sa to help him. When the God reached Sa‚s home, he was not greeted warmly. „I punished you, „ Sa said, „because you stole my daughter. Now and forever, you will not understand what your children say. Your white children shall use ink and pen to write down what they think. Your black children shall know how to feed themselves. I will give them useful tools to work with ˆ the axe, the hoes, and the machete. „I tell you,‰ Sa went on, „have the white children marry only their own color, their own kind. And have the black children marry their own kind.‰ Alatangana didn‚t like this at all, but he wanted no more trouble with Sa. At last, he agreed to Sa‚a command. The God went home and praised all of his children. And when the children grew and married, they set out for the four corners of the earth. That is why there are black people and white people everywhere over the earth. So it is that from the children of Alatangana and Death‚s daughter came all of the earth‚s children. We know them by the names of the countries where they live. There are German children, and Kono children, and on, and on ˆ so many names!

Yet the world was still dark, and the people lived in the dark. „I know,‰ said the God. „I‚ll send the tou-tou bird and the rooster to ask Sa what to do.‰ And he did. The two messengers went to Sa. Sa said to them, „Here is a song for each of you. I give it to you to call forth the light of day. Then humans can see to go about their work.‰ The rooster and the tou-tou bird went back home to the God. First the tou-tou bird sang, and then the cock. Right away, there was the first day coming. It dawned.

Behold! The sun!

The sun moved across the sky. At the end of its journey, it found a place to sleep on the other side of the earth. Next came the stars to give just enough lights for people to get around in the dark. Then Sa brought the moon to comfort people. Sa called the God to his home. Alatangana went there. Sa told him, „I welcomed you into my home, and you repaid me by taking my daughter. Now you must give me one of your children on the earth whenever I call one to me. The child will hear a rattling calabash gourd in its dreams. Then it will know I have called it. The call of Sa must be answered!‰ It is true. The God Alatangana stole Death‚s daughter. He never paid the bride-price. Now and forever, human beings must die when Sa calls them. When they hear the calabash rattle, the sound will be Death calling. Still, there is some good that came out of the bad. Now and forever, two birds sing forth the day. First the tou-tou, then the cock.

In this creation myth from the Kono people of Guinea, Death lives in darkness before we know of the God Alatangana. The meaning is clear that Death came first, made the mud, and then the God came to make solid earth out of the mud. The myth is also an explanation of how various races came to live all over the world, and why the races would seem to be separate from one another. It also tells how the sun, moon, and stars came to be. The God Alatangana has less power than Sa, Death. And because of the God‚s wrongdoing, Death is brought into the lives of humans. The God stole Sa‚s only daughter. Ever after, when it pleases him, Death takes one of God‚s children.

Or the hundreds of other Creation stories. Which one? All? None?

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errr..
Anna..
You forgot the Greek Mythology Creation scenario...

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O'siyo Oginalii Tsilugi !!! I will draw thorns from your feet. We will walk the White Path of Life together. Like a brother of my own blood, I will love you. I will wipe tears from your eyes. When you are sad, I will put your aching heart to rest. May you walk in peace and harmony

That's what science is, and that's what's already taught. Each scientific theory is given a fair representation, and students can choose to accept them or not.

How is Christian creationism a scientific theory?

How does teaching Christian creationism not violate the first amendment of the Constitution? Does religious freedom apply only to Christians?

I assume you mean the "facts" to support Christian creationism is the Bible. That's not factual, nor is it inerrant unless you adhere to the religion. It is something that justifies only itself with no external evidence of Christianity being true. Supporting creationism with circular logic is not scientific.

Creationism is not a scientific theory that has any facts to support it that are testable or observable in the realm of science.

Sure, they can be included too.  As long as you can find scientists who have doctorates in all of the relevant sciences (Physics, Geology, Biology, Archeology, etc.) to support each theory.