Do Disbelievers Go Too Hell?

mike1reynolds · #**161** 4th May 2006, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Lynn73

Once again, you define the truth of God's word as bigotry. You're calling God a bigot. My concern for you hasn't lessened one bit.

How is your false view of God anything other than bigoted? Define bigotry such that your view of God is not bigoted? If you can’t, then it is not God’s word, it is a false interpretation.

Originally Posted by Lynn73

And by the way, Hinduism and Christianity aren't compatible. Hindus aren't Christian even if they say Jesus is a messiah or avatar or whatever. To them, He's probably only one of many.

Many in time, each new one supercedes the previous. But did you throw out the Old Testament when Jesus showed up?

mike1reynolds · #**162** 4th May 2006, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by Melethiel

Here is the verdict: an atheist and a pagan do not agree with your statement that Christianity is bigotry.

Since that is not my assertion, it lead me to suspect that you did not ask the question as I repeatedly posed it. Do you know what my assertion is? Can you accurately repeat it? You slaughtered it here.

Lynn73 · #**163** 4th May 2006, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by mike1reynolds

How is your false view of God anything other than bigoted? Define bigotry such that your view of God is not bigoted? If you can’t, then it is not God’s word, it is a false interpretation.

You're almost speaking in riddles it seems like. How do you know my view of God is false? My view of God is based on His word, the Bible. Yours doesn't appear to be. And you clearly call what the Bible says about salvation bigoted, therefore you're calling God bigoted.

any in time, each new one supercedes the previous. But did you throw out the Old Testament when Jesus showed up?

I haven't thrown anything out, we're simply under the New Covenant or Testament now because of Christ. He instigated the new covenant in His blood. Once and for all. No more need of contantly sacrificing animals. He's the Lamb of God, the final, perfect sacrifice.

Melethiel · #**164** 4th May 2006, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by mike1reynolds

Since that is not my assertion, it lead me to suspect that you did not ask the question as I repeatedly posed it. Do you know what my assertion is? Can you accurately repeat it? You slaughtered it here.

I believe this is your assertion:

Do you think that the belief that all non-Christians go too Hell is not a form of religious bigotry?

And I repeat, I did not ask the question. You did. In fact, you "repeatedly posed it". Now please, stop attacking our intelligence and accept that.

mike1reynolds · #**165** 4th May 2006, 07:13 PM

You can't address the quesition because there is only one possible answer. You can't define bigotry such that it excludes your views. All you can do is assert that all liberal Christians are not Christians at all, and so you don't need to answer the question. There is no way to define bigotry such that it excludes your views. If you can do this, you will have won and I will become a convert to your view. This my word of honor.

As to one church under the antichrist, I'll bet he'll be a Muslim. As I've said, Muslims are going to go too Hell in droves. Their holy book came straight from the mouth of a demon. Mohammed never saw the entity, he just heard it's voice and dictated what it said to him, which was recorded as the Qur'an. So your characterization of my views is entirely false in this regard.

mike1reynolds · #**166** 4th May 2006, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Lynn73

I haven't thrown anything out, we're simply under the New Covenant or Testament now because of Christ.

Precisely! Yet you expect the Hindus to throw out all of their older works. This is a double standard.

mike1reynolds · #**167** 4th May 2006, 07:19 PM

I do not assert that Christianity is bigoted. The majority of Christian do not believe that all non-Christians go too Hell, and they are not bigoted.

Lynn73 · #**168** 4th May 2006, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by mike1reynolds

You can't address the quesition because there is only one possible answer. You can't define bigotry such that it excludes your views. All you can do is assert that all liberal Christians are not Christians at all, and so you don't need to answer the question. There is no way to define bigotry such that it excludes your views. If you can do this, you will have won and I will become a convert to your view.

Your word games won't get around the fact that you seem to disagree with the biblical view of salvation. You call the biblical view bigoted. It's not OUR views we're propogating here, it's the Bible's, and THAT is what you are calling bigoted, God's word. I'll say it again. My view, which you call bigoted, is the biblical view. Have you got that? Therefore it is God and His word you are calling bigoted so you can stop with the "you can't define bigotry so that it excludes your views" nonsense. My views are God's views. He's revealed His gospel in Scripture and I agree with Him. You evidently don't.

As to one church under the antichrist, I'll bet he'll be a Muslim. As I've said, Muslims are going to go too Hell in droves. Their holy book came straight from the mouth of a demon. Mohammed never saw the entity, he just heard it's voice and dictated what it said to him, which was recorded as the Qur'an. So your characterization of my views is entirely false in this regard.

The one world religion is going to be an amalgamation of all the false religions and cults, not just Islam.

Melethiel · #**169** 4th May 2006, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by mike1reynolds

I do not assert that Christianity is bigoted. The majority of Christian do not believe that all non-Christians go too Hell, and they are not bigoted.

Let's see. The majority of Christians would be Catholics, Orthodox, and mainline Protestants. While not all these groups will make definitive statements about the fate of non-Christians (as I have stated repeatedly, it is left up to God), they would all affirm that Jesus is the ONLY way to the Father.

mike1reynolds · #**170** 4th May 2006, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by Lynn73

Your word games won't get around the fact that you seem to disagree with the biblical view of salvation. You call the biblical view bigoted. It's not OUR views we're propogating here, it's the Bible's, and THAT is what you are calling bigoted, God's word. I'll say it again. My view, which you call bigoted, is the biblical view. Have you got that?

It is your interpretation, which a majority of Christians reject, and you cannot defend. All you can do is assert that it is the only possible interpretation, even as you speak for only minority of Christians.

Originally Posted by Lynn73

The one world religion is going to be an amalgamation of all the false religions and cults, not just Islam.

Hindus would be the last people on Earth to join in with Muslims. Do you have any idea how much animosity there is between Hindus and Muslims? That is why Pakistan separated from India, and the process was a blood bath.