Wouldn't this make the Son less?

Isn't knowledge power? If this is so, then when Jesus says "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father," wouldn't it mean that Jesus is on a somewhat lower level of knowledge than God the Father? If they were truly equal in the Holy Spirit, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, they would know everything together. Granted, it says in my bible that some manuscripts do not have nor the Son. What do you guys think about this?

seems straight forward to me, the father comes before the son

And God Bless All His Peoples.

But why wouldn't Jesus know when the second coming would be? Is He not as important as God the Father?

1. don't know
2. Jesus himself put the Father first, the bible also says somewhere,"as you honor the father so honor the son"
I don't how the trinity works I just try to take it in faith and realise there are some things that may be beyond my understanding

And God Bless All His Peoples.

I agree.

Jesus and the Father are equal in nature, but unequal in position.

Just like a typical human father and son - they are both equally human, but the father has a higher position of authority. It's the same with Jesus and the Father - they are both equally God, but the Father has a higher position of authority.

As God, Jesus knows full well when He's coming back again. But when He was here on earth, Jesus was the Son, the humble servant of the Father. As the Son, it wasn't Jesus' place to determine when the 2nd coming would be and it wasn't His place to tell others about it - that fell under the authority of the Father alone. That is how I understand Jesus' statement.

What I have read is that Jesus did not know while here on earth. After He ascended, He knew, and knows now.

My Bible tells me:

"But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:: -1 Cor. 2:7

Some things God will keep to himself alone. It wasn't for the Savior to know.

"For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him?" -1 Cor. 2:16

"Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said, Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge? Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb? When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it, And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors, And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?" -Job 38:1-11

"Then answered the LORD unto Job out of the whirlwind, and said, Gird up thy loins now like a man: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me. Wilt thou also disannul my judgment? wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be righteous? Hast thou an arm like God? or canst thou thunder with a voice like him? Deck thyself now with majesty and excellency; and array thyself with glory and beauty. Cast abroad the rage of thy wrath: and behold every one that is proud, and abase him. Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked in their place. Hide them in the dust together; and bind their faces in secret. Then will I also confess unto thee that thine own right hand can save thee." -Job 40:6-14

"Then Job answered the LORD, and said, I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from thee. Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not. Hear, I beseech thee, and I will speak: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me. I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee. Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes." -Job 42:1-6

Jesus didn't need to know when. I don't need to know when. If I knew exactly when it would happen, I have no doubt that my carnal self would continue on as I once did until the very last minute.

"For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." -1 Cor. 13:12

I don't need to know now, but someday it will become perfectly clear to me as to why.

Sorry I couldn't help.

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Remember that Jesus came as a Jewish man, obeserved the Law and fulfilled the law. The church is the bride of Christ and the wedding ceeremony will be the traditional Jewish wedding.




1. The Beginning:
The groom's father made and approved choice of the bride.
Christ is the bridegroom. Church is the bride. The Father makes and approves the choice. John the Baptist shows himself as bestman.
John 10:28
John 3:29

2. The Groom's Promise:
a. Made a covenant or contract promise. b. Drink the cup of wine to seal the covenant. c. Groom pays a price to show he is serious. d. Groom's speech of promise to his bride that he would come to claim her soon.
God made a new covenant with Israel to replace one He made with Abraham. Jesus drank cup of redemption at Passover. Jesus paid the price for us on the cross. Jesus promises to come and take His bride, the church, away to be with Him.
Jeremiah 31:31 Matthew 26:27-29, 1 Corinthians 6:20 John 14:2-3

3. Groom Prepares a Place for His Bride:
Groom prepares a bridal chamber where they stay for seven days. He works on it until it pleases his father. Then he may go after his bride.
Jesus tells us that He does not know when He will come; only His Father knows. We must be alert and ready! For, He is preparing our place now. Be alert: Don't worship idols. Be ready: Do all He asks while you're here. Develop an active prayer life. Offer yourself in ministry opportunity. Keep ourselves from doubt and failure.
Mark 13:32-33

4. The Bride Waits:
While the groom builds the new home, the bride waits and wears a veil. This shows she belongs only to the groom. She prepares for her wedding by making blankets, etc. She also shows gratitude to her family for raising her and she mends hurt relationships. No matter what, she had to be ready because he would come at night.
We must do His will in our daily lives. We must be committed to our ministries at home and church. We must heal wounded relationships and express our agape love to each other. We must exhort! Jesus tells us that He will come like a thief. So, we must be living "His Love" at all times. The church, too, is veiled. The world is not sure who the church is. When we go, it will know.
2 Corinthians 11:2 Luke 19:13 1 Corinthians 13:1 Luke 12:40

5. The Bridesmaids:
Unmarried friends who attend the bride and provide light for the groom who comes at night.
We prepare the bride in our ministry to each other. We groom her. We must be ready in our service and not run out of power or conviction as the bridesmaids did.
Matthew 25:1-13

6. The Bridegroom Comes:
The grooms'men would run ahead of the groom and shout that he was coming. While the father's head was turned, the groom would steal the bride. The wedding party then went back to the groom's house to meet the guests.
The angel, Gabriel, will blow the trumpet of God, and Jesus will come like a thief to snatch away His Bride. When we arrive in Heaven, a host of people will be waiting for us.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

7. The Bridal Chamber:
The bride and groom enter the bridal chamber where the marriage is consummated. The party waits outside until the groom tells the best man that it is consummated. Then, the guests rejoice for 7 days.
As John the Baptist was filled with joy when he saw Jesus, so we too shall be filled when we join Jesus in the heavenly bridal chamber. Some liken those 7 days in the chamber to the 7 year tribulation period which we will spend not in agony on earth, but in bliss in heaven. Then we will return as the wife, not the Bride.
John 3:29 Revelation 19:7-8

8. Married Life Begins:
New couple goes to the father's home to begin married life.
We too, will go to the Father's house for the Marriage Feast of The Lamb, then go with Christ in His reign in His kingdom here on earth for 1,000 years.
Revelation 20:16

http://www.ldolphin.org/wedding.html

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This is what I've learned in my Hebrew Class also - so what Cavymom said!