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29th March 2006, 11:04 PM
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i just want to know what people here think as i've been wondering alot about this the past couple of days. how many people believe that the earth is more than 6000 years old? |
29th March 2006, 11:36 PM
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The only solid evidence pointing to a new earth is a reading of Scripture that makes it something it is not: a science textbook.
The Church Fathers themselves reckoned that the Bible was never meant to be taken literally always. St. Augustine even said that if the Bible were ever wrong, it had to be because of his misunderstanding of it. Judging by the fact that he suggested that we read Scripture with a variety of background knowledge, including science, he would be forced to the conclusion that the earth is old and that evolution is how God created various lifeforms on Earth.
Old Earth is the only possible answer.
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29th March 2006, 11:41 PM
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Reps: 2,246,248,868 (power: 2,246,264) | | Originally Posted by Dylan_Chica i just want to know what people here think as i've been wondering alot about this the past couple of days. how many people believe that the earth is more than 6000 years old?
Most of the people who discovered how old the earth is were Christians listening to God's Word as recorded in creation.
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30th March 2006, 04:47 AM
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I'm YEC
Young Earth 
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30th March 2006, 07:43 AM
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30th March 2006, 04:57 PM
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Reps: 70,872 (power: 84) | | Originally Posted by Dylan_Chica i'm young earth too and to call someone's christian beliefs "blasphemous" is hurting and should not be part of this forum.
Who has been calling others' views blasphemous? |
30th March 2006, 05:30 PM
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30th March 2006, 05:30 PM
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30th March 2006, 06:53 PM
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Reps: 143,091 (power: 152) | | On a more serious note Dylan t his website
I met this guy a couple of years ago. He is VERY religious, and is very articulate with his explanation of his beliefs in a non literal genesis. Denis O. Lamoureux
Assistant Professor of Science & Religion
St. Joseph's College, University of Alberta
Denis O. Lamoureux is an assistant professor of science and religion at St. Joseph's College in the University of Alberta. His appointment is the first tenure-track position in Canada dedicated to teaching and research on the relationship between scientific discovery and Christian faith.
Lamoureux's academic specialty focuses on the modern origins controversy. In "Beyond the 'Evolution vs. Creation' Debate" he argues that the simple either/or approach to origins inhibits everyone from making informed choices. He asserts that if the limits of both conservative Christianity and evolutionary biology are respected, then their relationship is not only complementary, but also necessary. This view of origins is known as Evolutionary Creation. Concisely stated, it claims that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit created the universe and life through an ordained and sustained evolutionary process.
Lamoureux holds three earned doctoral degrees: dentistry, theology, and biology. He is a member of the executive council of the Canadian Scientific and Christian Affiliation, a Fellow of the American Scientific Affiliation, and is cited in the Who's Who of Theology and Science. Lamoureux lectures throughout Canada and the United States in both Christian and secular academic institutions. In 2001 he received the University of Alberta Students' Union 'Recognizing Talented Teaching' Award. The purpose of the Bible is to teach us that God is the Creator,
and not how the Father, Son and Holy Spirit created.
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