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Does anyone here think, that any of the versions KJV, NIV, NKJV, ASB, NASB, ect... one of these are trying to distort or twist the word of God to intentionally mislead people?

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various versions

the reason we have many diffrent versions is because our language constantly changes, we currently do not speak like the 1500's translators spoke in there day. There is a book "which Bible" edited by david otis fuller d.d. may be avaliable a christian bookstores, maybe this will help you., by the way "william Tyndale is my 11th great granduncle, his sister married my 11th great grandfather dr. rowland taylor listed also in foxes book of martyrs.
I hope its not because the KJV was the first bible authorized by a British monarch.
it was authorized by a british monarch because William Tyndale while being martyred asked "God to open up the eyes of the king of England" and God did.visit my site

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People people relax, Lord Jesus the Christ stated in the Holy Bible about 'Scriptures' not Scripture. How we decide which is Holy Scripture or some Man written Scripture is with the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Bible has Holy Scripture, for it was written by men (that were filled with the Holy Spirit) not just some Scriptures.
There are many Bibles and Scriptures but those that the Holy Spirit doesn't agree with say bye bye to that Scripture for a while.

Now you must understand that the Holy Spirit is given when someone beleives, accepts, and repents in the name Lord Jesus the Christ as the Savior for He is the Savior from sin and death for sin is death.

Now you must always understand any Scripture that denys Lord Jesus the Christ as a Savior is false Scripture. And you must also understand to be care what you say about the Holy Spirit or who has what Spirit.

Mark 3:29 . . but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is quilty of an enternal sin - 30 because they were saying, "He has an unclean Spirit."

And also you must beware of false Prothets who claim to be righteous and books are known to be written about prothet and what they say.

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles ? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruits is hewn down, and cast into the Fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in Heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name ? And in thy name have cast out devils ? And in thy name done many wonderful works ? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
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The accusation is that certain versions of the bible are attempting to distort the Word of God.

From your reply I gather that you are saying that certain portions of the bible are not from God which is a different point.

So which bible version or scripture is not from God then? Please list them.


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People people relax, Lord Jesus the Christ stated in the Holy Bible about 'Scriptures' not Scripture. How we decide which is Holy Scripture or some Man written Scripture is with the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Bible has Holy Scripture, for it was written by men (that were filled with the Holy Spirit) not just some Scriptures.
There are many Bibles and Scriptures but those that the Holy Spirit doesn't agree with say bye bye to that Scripture for a while.
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I do not read anything that the Holy Spirit doesn't want me to read I only read the Holy Bible - New King James Version. For it is easy to understand in plain English as it can't get any eayers to read since I am not American but Ukrainian.

Edited: I do not read anything to even better yet any Scripture.

There are a lot of Bibles, the words change but they mean the same thing if not it is false.

Now my Ukrainian Holy Bible matches everything the NKJV is saying it has the same meaning, things can be said in different ways but by no means will it change.
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Old 10th January 2002, 09:27 AM
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bible versions

Of course, the words are slightly different = some bibles use charity instead of love, kindness instead of compassion - but it means the same thing.

But as for the original post about intentionally misleading people, how would you react if someone attacked your bible with such remarks - ie that your Bible is intentionally misleading people? Clearly, it warrants a certain measure of outrage.

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There are a lot of Bibles, the words change but they mean the same thing if not it is false.
Now my Ukrainian Holy Bible matches everything the NKJV is saying it has the same meaning, things can be said in different ways but by no means will it change. [/b]
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Originally posted by mick
Thank you so much for replying, but I am still stuck as to why we do not have the original copy of the bible.
One of the closest friends that I have today is a muslim. In Islam the muslims have the "Quran". When ever I visit different towns I allways try to visit book stores and ask for the Quran. And the copies are allways the same, and it is the "original" copy from the times and dates of their prophet.
Why do we not have the original text, where has it gone and why are we Christians not allowed to see it. The quran has just 1 version but many translations in to languages so that people from different countries can read it but! But the "BIBLE" doesnt exist in its original format instead we have thousands of versions. This is what I am trying to get at! We are christians from our hearts no matter what versions of the BIBILE we read but I just find it fascinating why we dont have the original text. Can any one help me with this question please.
I think the answer to this is that God is spirit and those that worship Him must worship Him in truth and spirit. I think that is key. If we had the original format blow by blow I think we would worship that above God just like Muslims do the Quran. God wants us to have faith like a child. Trust in Him is what He wants. He will not give us all the answers. We have to keep pursuing Him. I don't think that the different versions and language texts confuse things. Any differences are easily explaned.
The Bible I believe was written over a time period of 1500 years by different authors. The Quran was written by one over a period of only a few years. I think the 1000s of versions are good. We should always try and make the Word of God accessible to all. The Quran is very exclusive. They have many translations but they always say to read it in their original language. You do not have to read the Bible in Greek and Hebrew to get its original meaning. It helps to enhance the experience but you can get the jest of what God wants you to know through the translations.
Just my thoughts.
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A thought.

Could this be part of Satan's plan? He deliberately confuse and divide us by having many different versions of bibles available?
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Originally posted by rpggal
A thought.

Could this be part of Satan's plan? He deliberately confuse and divide us by having many different versions of bibles available?
I don't think so it is just our humaness. We all come to the Bible with our own baggage. Preconceived notions. If you grew up say in a Calvinistic Pre-Mill Pre-trib traditon you are going to be more inclined to read that into what you are seeing in the Bible. If you grew up with an Armenian view you are going to see that in the Bible. We are all individuals who bring our finite fallible minds to this. I think that the many different versions are good. Not all of us can get a Greek education to read and translate it ourselves. One translation can almost be a commentary to another translation without taking anything away from either. Read a Bible passage in the KJV and then read it in the CEV. It just brings a slightly different perspective but doesn't change anything.
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