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How many seals have been opened?

Can someone tell me how many seals have already been opened? What in the world is happening right now that was told in the bible, for the end times? How do we know we are in the end times, according to what god said? Thanks.
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Hi

I would say this verse says it all

4: But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

That's us running to and fro and knowledged has increased ...........................up to 200 years ago the world was pretty much unchanged for 1,000's of years.

As for the seals I would say four seals have been opened.. the Seven trumpets/bowls happen during the fifth seal the sixth seal is jesus retrun.

here is a link that explains the seals............well where Jesus explains the seals

http://www.christianforums.com/t2353...ls.html&page=1
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The sixith seal is not when Jesus returns, it is when Satan is revealed as the fake messiah, correct.
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Well it is all how you look at it.

the beast is shown as a fraud when jesus returns.

The Sixth Seal happens after the Great Tribulation.

12: And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13: And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

Now Matt 24:

29: Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

I would say it is very clear that during the sixth seal Jesus returns.
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So, when does Satan come back then?
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When did he leave?

It is the beast who is in the Pit not Satan.

Rv 17:8: The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:

Satan or the devil roams the world free looking to devour

1Pt:5:8: Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:



Hi Barb

See that is why we but heads so often you are wrong about so many things(smile) Your futurist view is not supported by scripture.
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No seals yet, nor bowls.
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Satan is supossed to take the form of the messiah, and decieve people into believing he is god right, so when does this happen?
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In the future. At one point, he sits in the rebuilt temple, claiming he is God. Then all hell breaks loose.
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