Pastor offers US$1 million for bible verses

Aussie · #1 18th December 2001, 12:49 AM

Check this news article out.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=24908

What do you guys think?

Yauming · #2 18th December 2001, 05:16 AM

I think he's just misguided. Why doesn't anyone ask him "Where does it say in the bible that we are to set Saturday - holy"

Besides, the Western name for the 6th day "Saturday" - comes from a pagan deity Saturn IIRC.... ooohh or maybe its name came SATAN....

"And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made" (Genesis 2:3).

So which is the seventh day of our week?

The best reply to give? Sure dude, thanks for coming again, see you later... NOT.

[This message has been edited by Yauming (edited 19 December 2001).]

kikid · #3 18th December 2001, 02:02 PM

the seventh day we are commanded to keep as the sabbath. The jews have always observed the seventh day and it falls on what we call Saturday.

Sunday was designated by the roman catholic church to be a holy day of worship, as were christmas, easter, and halloween. None of those I mentioned were observed by Jesus or his disciples. Nor did Jesus or the disciples instruct Christians to do so. They are traditions of men. Refer to your bible about how God feels about traditions of men.

foo · #4 18th December 2001, 02:05 PM

Saturday is the seventh or Sabbath day. That's why you see all the Jews going to the Synagogues on Saturday.

Sunday is the day that Jesus rose from the dead. Christians meet together on the first day of the week to "break bread" and living in observance of the ressurection of Jesus.
e.g. Acts 20:7, 1 Cor 16:2

St. Ignatius says Christians are "no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord's Day, on which also Our Life rose again".

Do you think those two verses are good enough for me to claim the money?

kikid · #5 18th December 2001, 04:15 PM

Not good enough, the days in the time of Christ were from sundown to sundown --- the disciples "broke bread" on what we now refer to as Sat evening -- to them it was the first day of the week or Sunday.

SOS · #6 19th December 2001, 12:33 AM

In the end, it makes no real difference - there is no point being legalistic or ritualistic - as long as we set aside one day of rest to worship God.

Yauming · #7 19th December 2001, 05:55 AM

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kikid:
Not good enough, the days in the time of Christ were from sundown to sundown --- the disciples "broke bread" on what we now refer to as Sat evening -- to them it was the first day of the week or Sunday.</font>

Don't you mean from *sunset* to sundown?

kikid · #8 19th December 2001, 06:47 AM

yep, you know I knew exactly what I meant when I wrote it, but now re-reading it, I see I wasn't very clear in my thinking or writing.........

foo · #9 19th December 2001, 02:05 PM

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kikid:
Not good enough, the days in the time of Christ were from sundown to sundown --- the disciples "broke bread" on what we now refer to as Sat evening -- to them it was the first day of the week or Sunday.</font>

Which would mean that the seventh day is Friday night. Which means the Seventh Day Adventists have it wrong anyway. So if they want to shift the meaning of "days" then the two verses would be good enough.

Yauming · #10 19th December 2001, 06:48 PM

But what of the changes to the (Gregorian) calender and the leap days etc.. how do the Seventh Day Addys take into account of that? Are they seriously believing that Saturday is the actual week day that God made Sabbath? To be chronologically accurate, you got to ask God.