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8th March 2006, 04:17 PM
|  | Peace-loving Warrior of God 38 
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Reps: 12,249 (power: 22) | | Non-Christian Spouse? Hello all,
I read recently that an Orthodox Christian cannot be married to a non-Christian. To do so would automatically excommunicate you and prevent you from the sacraments. So what about those of us (like myself) who are planning on converting, but whose spouse is not Christian? Anyone know the answer or been through it?
Peace.
__________________ Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner. A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. -John 13:34 God is Love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him. -1John 4:16 | 
8th March 2006, 04:24 PM
|  | Senior Veteran 30  | | Join Date: 2nd July 2005 Location: Pennsylvania
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Reps: 168,506,857,228,458,432 (power: 168,506,857,228,472) | | THAT's ok. You just are not supposed to be uniting yourself body and soul to someone who is counter to Christ once you are already a believer. If you are coming into the Church and are already married, as Paul says, let them not divorce. You're fine | 
8th March 2006, 04:24 PM
|  | Orthodoxy: Old School, Hard Core Christianity 40 
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Reps: 20,477 (power: 35) | | | This definitely falls in the 'Speak with your priest.' category. My guess is that if you agree to raise any children Orthodox, then there wont be a problem.
There is a passage from one of St Paul's epistles that comes to mind, but I don't have a text with me. A little help?
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8th March 2006, 04:47 PM
|  | my love is bigger than a cadillac 39 
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Reps: 25,668 (power: 42) | | | I am married to a non-Christian. My priest and I briefly discussed this, but it was before I really learned about the true nature of Orthodox theology on marraige. I do plan on discussing it further at our next meeting. His brief comments to me earlier were basically that the Church recognizes the family we've built together and keeping a healthy family unit together is VERY important. He also said that some things would have to be modified for me, as a) a non-Christian spouse is not expected to fast and b) and it is unbiblical to ask a non-Christian to agree to a fast from marital relations. He did say he would like to meet my non-Christian spouse, but that it's unneccesary, as long as he doesn't forbid me to enter the Church.
kamikat
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8th March 2006, 05:09 PM
|  | Aspirant 44 
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Reps: 7,876 (power: 24) | | | Marriage is a sacramental the confers grace even on the non-believer, according to scriptures. I dunno the Orthodox position, but I bet it is close. | 
8th March 2006, 07:43 PM
|  | Theology Team 49 
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Reps: 442,867,681 (power: 442,893) | | | I am married to a nonChristian. My Priest is fully aware of it. It might make a difference if I was Orthodox first then married a nonChristian, but I recieve all sacraments.
__________________ "You ask, will the heterodox be saved... Why do you worry about them? They have a Saviour Who desires the salvation of every human being. He will take care of them. You and I should not be burdened with such a concern. Study yourself and your own sins..." (St. Theophan) St. Isaac of Syria (7th century): "Someone who is considered among men to be zealous for truth has not yet learnt what truth is really like: once he has truly learnt it, he will cease from zealousness on its behalf." | 
8th March 2006, 08:21 PM
|  | Peace-loving Warrior of God 38 
| | Join Date: 19th December 2004 Location: British Columbia
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Reps: 12,249 (power: 22) | | | When one says "to raise children in the faith" what does that mean exactly? For example, I'll take my kids to church and such, but the kids are being taught that Christ is God, yet my wife will also tell them that he is not God.
Peace.
__________________ Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner. A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. -John 13:34 God is Love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him. -1John 4:16 | 
8th March 2006, 10:31 PM
|  | Peace-loving Warrior of God 38 
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Reps: 12,249 (power: 22) | | | Any thoughts on my previous post?
__________________ Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner. A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. -John 13:34 God is Love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him. -1John 4:16 | 
8th March 2006, 10:47 PM
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Reps: 168,506,857,228,458,432 (power: 168,506,857,228,472) | | | That's probably something that you will have to talk abotu with your priest, for your specific situation. I highly doubt you would be turned away from the Church (we WANT people to find their home in Christ here) but this does sound like something that will be a challenge in your life, so consulting with your priest will be helpful.
Do you have catechumen classes or anything? It often seems that you have questions that should be getting answered by your priest, if he was instructing you--please note that having questions is a good thing. | 
8th March 2006, 11:19 PM
|  | Contributor 48 
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Reps: 652,479,090,345,778,176 (power: 652,479,090,345,791) | | Choirfiend is right. That needs a detailed conversation with your priest. We're just lay folk, remember.
Online resources are extra. They should not replace a priest or spiritual father.
Having said that, if I see anything online for you, I'll keep you in mind. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |