Rev. Moon discovered the true nature of the fall

Rev. Moon discovered the true nature of the human "fall"

How did the human “fall” develop and multiple?

What is the process and motivation of the human “fall”?

The Sin of the Angel and the Sin of the First Man and Woman
What was the sin of the angel? Jude 6-7 says,

"And the angels that did not keep their own position but left their proper dwelling have been kept by him in eternal chains in the nether gloom until the judgment of the great day; just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise [like the angels] acted immorally and indulged in unnatural lust, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire."
[KJV- fornication]

The sin of the angel (in the Garden) was the sin of fornication. Since fornication cannot be committed alone, there must have been a partner. But who could it have been? The Bible tells us of only three beings that sinned in the Garden of Eden; the serpent and Adam and Eve. Let us consider what the sin of the first man and woman could have been.

In Genesis 3:7 we read that after being tempted by the serpent and committing sin, the first ancestors became ashamed of their nakedness and covered the lower parts of their bodies. However, before their fall Adam and Eve were naked but unashamed (Gen 2:25). Then when we read that they covered the lower, or sexual, parts of their bodies with fig leaves after they sinned, we must ask ourselves whether man also committed the sin of fornication.
It is in fallen man's nature to try to conceal his faults and wrongs; so if the fruit of good and evil were a fruit in the literal sense, Adam and Eve should have covered their hands or mouths if they had taken the fruit with their hands or had eaten it with their mouths. Yet we find that they covered their sexual parts, not their hands and mouths. This is an indication that Adam and Eve's transgression involved their sexual parts. Job 31:33 says, "...I have concealed my transgression...like Adam by hiding my iniquity in my bosom" (emphasis added). Job's words indicate that Adam concealed his transgression, and since we know that Adam and Eve concealed their sexual parts, we can conclude that their sin involved their sexual parts.
In the Garden of Eden, the only sin that man would possible commit at the risk of his life was a sin involving love. Adam and Eve were to grow as brother and sister, and, after perfecting themselves, were to establish the Kingdom of Heaven by becoming the first husband and wife and creating God's family, fulfilling the Purpose of the Creation. However, when Jesus says in John 8:44, "'You are of your father the devil...,'" he clearly shows that fallen people are descendants of the Devil. Adam and Eve forsook God, their true father, and became one with a false father, Satan, which is the reason that Romans 8:23 says, "...we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies" (emphasis added). The fact that we are waiting for adoption into God's lineage tells us that we are not of God's lineage. In Matthew 3:7 and Matthew 23:33, respectively, John the Baptist and Jesus called the people a "brood of vipers"--in other words, the offspring of serpents-clearly indicating that fallen man is the offspring of Satan. Thus we can clearly understand that fallen man belongs to Satan's lineage, not God's. This is the result of Eve's committing the sin of fornication with the angel. As a result of this crime, all human beings have been born as the "children" of Satan.

There was one sin in the Fall of man and that was disobedience of God.

It was eating the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge. It is not a metaphor for "sex", it is not a metaphor for "fornication", it means simply, they ate the fruit of a Tree that was forbidden them.

And again.....

This is not the teaching of Jesus Christ, this is a different gospel. If anyone has any questions concerning what has been presented here, please start a thread and ask those questions and we will all look to scripture and find the truth.

Thank God that people have their own responsibility to decide what is true. Let each person ask God and look into their own heart for answers. I believe people will know the truth when they hear it, if they are not blocked by
self-centered, narrow-minded beliefs that exclude God's viewpoint, God's Spirit, new prophesy, new visions, new dreams and all other sources for truth necessary for good judgement.
" And in the Last Days it shall be, God declairs, that I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams...I will pour out my Spirit; and they shall prophesy"
This is the year 2001, God will not repeat what He said 2,000 years ago.

The Fruit of Good and Evil and the Root of Sin

Since a tree reproduces itself by its fruit (which bears the seeds) and man reproduces by a sexual relationship, then the Fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil symbolizes the sexual love of Eve. The fact that Eve ate the fruit which Satan persuaded her to eat means that she committed fornication with Satan. Since eating something means to make it a part of our flesh and blood, Eve's giving Adam the fruit of good and evil and his eating it means that Eve caused Adam to fall through this same act of illicit love.

Therefore, the root of sin is not the first human ancestors' eating a literal fruit, but their establishing a blood relationship through fornication with the archangel, who was symbolized by the serpent, This blood relationship is the cause for the Original Sin's being passed on from generation to generation. All religions which try to remove sin have branded and treated adultery as one of the greatest sins. Based on this view of Original Sin, we can understand why the Israelites had to be circumcised to be considered God's chosen people. It was required in order to make restitution for the misuse of the sexual parts, by which man had become Satan's descendants. We may be able to put a stop to all other sins through social, educational, or economic improvements, but even though civilization develops and social and economic conditions improve to the point where we can enjoy a more stable life, the increase of sexual promiscuity and of man's inclination toward moral degradation cannot be stopped by anyone.

The reason that Satan is able to break down the proper order of man's love as the Last Days approach is because the first ancestors became husband and wife without the permission or blessing of God and united with Satan an their false father. Their children where thus born as children of sin, and not of God, and they established a world of faithlessness, evil, and war. Consequently, Satan has dominated man as he has seen fit (Jn 8:44).

Despite the fact that God created man and the cosmos, He has never been able to have the central role in any of the world's affairs--to rule according to his Will alone. Man cast Satan in the starring role, and Satan has been falsely playing the part of the lord. It is for this reason that Satan is referred to as "the ruler of this world" (Jn 12:31) and "the god of this world" (2 Cor 4:4).

You aren't the first one that has taught the HERESY and you won't be the last.

Why don't you answer the questions about who Jesus Christ is, who Moon is, what Moon thinks he is supposed to do?

Are you afraid to give those answers because you know what people will say?

Yes, thank God most people here know Blasphemous Heresy when they see it, they know the scriptures speak truth when they say, "I am the way, the life and truth and NO ONE comes to the Father but through ME.

Notice something? Rev Moons name is not there, there is only one way to the Father and it is through Jesus Christ, He paid it all and Rev Moon has nothing to do with that whatsoever.

The thread is: Rev. Moon discovered the true nature of the fall.

If you would like to talk about Rev. Moon, start a new thread. Try www.unification.net or www.tparents.org
to get more information. There is no perfection in ignorance.

You can't discuss this without discussing Reverend Moon himself since you are stating that he found the truth. The statement itself is an untruth and Reverend Moon is a false prophet. That is something is something you cannot get around. So if you want to discuss that, you're going to have to get into the unreliability and falseness of the person you believe to have found the truth.

Since you brought up starting a thread, I did and since it was your idea, I assume you will participate.

The thread is located here, in the Round Tables Forum:

pub16.ezboard.com/fleftbe...=378.topic

Discussing Rev. Moon in the context of this thread is fine. I can only hope that good people will try to make effort to understand the truth being revealed.

Wait a second.....you said this:

So I started another thread, just like you said. I started it with the expectations that you would participate in it, that is what you made it sound like.

I do not understand since you are the only Moonie on the board, that you will not participate in it.

What are you afraid of? I have never been afraid to state my beliefs, to anyone. If someone knows they are right, they do not refuse to discuss their beliefs. The only reason they generally refuse to discuss their beliefs is if they know there is a problem with them.

When you come to a board that discusses religion, Christianity in particular, you can't expect not to have your beliefs discussed or questioned. That is part of this board for EVERYONE.

Now you have been given an opportunity to explain your beliefs to us and if your beliefs are different than what we think they are, then I am sure that you want to make sure that we know what they are and they we don't believe something about your beliefs that is incorrect.

Anybody else would do that.

So, are you going to discuss Rev Moon or not?

I have no problem discussing anything about Rev. Moon.
His life on earth will benefit every man, woman and child.

When people who know so little start saying his teachings are false because some are different from theirs, well, I'm not so moved to share.

When such people point to sites other than official Unification Church sites and say this is where the truth about the UC can be found, that is just not right.

Rev. Moon describes what it means to fulfill the purpose of creation, in thousands of speeches. The time is soon coming when his experience with God will be desired by everyone. It is truly inspirational! [personal experience] God has provided mass communication to make sure this is possible.
Rev. Moon is creating a world-wide culture of true marriage and true family. Through ideal families, God's love will be manifested in all our lives. It will happen! [Christians don't even seem to have a clue what God is doing. God blessed Christians for the sake of the rest of the world and they gave the world a few crumbs and kept the rest for themselves.]
Rev. Moon teaches that God's way is to give and give and forget what you have given and give more. If you want to know Rev. Moon, just follow this way. This is how Rev. Moon met God. This is the way of God and Jesus and anyone who will be called the true Son and Daughters of God. Living for the sake of others will naturally separate anyone from satan, who is selfish and self-centered. It's the narrow road and the true road. It works!