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22nd February 2006, 12:08 AM
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Reps: 9,347,037,188,511,416 (power: 9,347,037,188,525) | | Originally Posted by Gramaic Ethical concerns? People are worried about the "ethical concerns" concerning this no good murderer, yet they don't give a darn about the "ethical concerns" regarding the 17-year-old girl he killed.  
Beyond reasonable doubt as defined by a jury of peers is good enough to do what is necessary for public safety. But, if you want to torture/execute him, you need proof. Do you have that? |
22nd February 2006, 12:13 AM
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Reps: 753 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Illuminatus I've always wondered how doctors that participate in executions get around the obvious conflict with the Hippocratic Oath.
The modern Hippocratic oath was modified in 1964 from the original one to allow for more "room". The original oath specifically condemned inducing abortions, as a matter of fact.
Expecting Anesthesiologists to assist with an execution is absolutely absurd. Just give the criminal a load of Sodium Thiopental and then let the execution begin. End of story. Criminals on death row needn't be very "comfortable" throughout the so-called procedure.
If I were one of those Anesthesiologists I would have never let myself walk in. Good choice they made... Killing is not within the realm of medicine. |
22nd February 2006, 12:39 AM
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With having 2,000 volts shocking you to your death.
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22nd February 2006, 01:06 AM
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With having 2,000 volts shocking you to your death.
Right. Bring back the axe!
Although rapists should get the iron maiden. Iron maidens also have the advantage of doubling as coffins. And it would put them in an interesting position come the Ressurection. |
22nd February 2006, 02:59 AM
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Reps: 9,311 (power: 21) | | | Good for them. Maybe if we're lucky he won't get executed at all.
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22nd February 2006, 07:43 AM
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Reps: -23 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Gramaic No, not all killing is murder. Execution is punishment for criminals who murdered innocent people, not murder.
The basic definition of murder is to take one's life against the will of said person. Therefore, it would require an absurd word game to say the DP is not murder. |
22nd February 2006, 08:16 AM
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Reps: 1,213,947,404,020,935 (power: 1,213,947,404,035) | | Originally Posted by Blackguard_ The real question isn't "should the anesthesiologists have walked out?" although they have every right to.
The real question shold be "why do they need to anestetize people who are going to be executed?"
If its as the article says and it will casue excrutiating pain without sedation (although I'm curious as to what they consider "excruciating pain" to be) why do they lethally inject people? Why not bring back the guillotine? You don't need anesthesiologists for that. Or the gallows.
I always thought lethal injection was used for its painlessness, I didn't realize it almost purely out of squeamishness.
Thats a rather lame execution, a death less painful then the majority of men will experience (heart attack). Does show the doctors could participate though.
Probably something to do with cruel and unusual punishment.
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