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15th February 2006, 10:26 AM
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Reps: 318,185,950,871,895 (power: 318,185,950,880) | | | C&E Thread Archive Since it appears that Mechanical Bliss is no longer participating I thought I’d take up the torch so to speak. If you have any posts that you think should be included in the archive please PM me. Originally Posted by Mechanical Bliss Purpose: This archive endeavors to function as a handy reference to some of the most useful threads on the forum from 2002 to the present, whether you're a regular looking for quick references to past threads or a newbie looking at past discussions. Criteria: Inclusion of threads is based upon the originality, insightfulness, and construction of the OP and/or an OP that asks a question or makes an argument that is replied to with good answers and refutations from multiple participants. Origin: The archive originally started based upon making my own bookmarked threads public, personally scouring the entire forum from the beginning, and hoping that others would find this information useful and be willing to contribute so that everyone finds it useful. Alterations: Now you're probably saying, who is this guy to choose which threads belong in this collection and which ones don't? Since this thread is supposed to serve the C&E community of regular posters, it's really up to all of you. If there are any threads that were excluded, wrongfully included, wrongfully categorized, errors, or improvements, let me know. The Basics/General/PRATT Items/Miscellaneous Educational web sites Ask An Astrophysicist (NASA) Early Human Phylogeny (Smithsonian) Human Genome Project (Human Genome Program) Intelligent Design "CReationism's New Wrapper" (Ardea Skybreak) Quantum Mechanics (Stanford) Radiometric Dating (Dr. Roger C. Wiens) Talk Origins The Panda's Thumb Tree of Life web project Understanding Evolution (Berkeley) Basics of C&E Discussion Topics Butchery of the laws of thermodynamics (Valkhorn) The Double Standards of Creationism (Valkhorn) Evolution...a Religion? (Valkhorn) Evolution is both a Fact and a Theory (Vance) Evolution is NOT atheism (lucaspa) The Evolution of Creationism (gluadys) Intelligent Design Is Not Science (Lucretius) Is Evolution Science? (Ondoher) Falsification - implications for YEC and Evolution (notto) Natural Selection is not metaphysics (Pete Harcoff) The Pillar of Evolution (Valkhorn) The problem with Creation Science (Vance) Quantum Mechanics and the Cosmological Argument (Lucretius) Scientific method (lucaspa) Statements of Faith and the Bias of creationist groups (Arikay) The Theory of Evolution (is NOT...) (Pete Harcoff) There is no theory of Intelligent Design (Pete Harcoff) What exactly is the Theory of Evolution (GoSeminoles!) What's the baseline for intelligent design? (Pete Harcoff) what's the process for "peer-reviewed" work? (GoSeminoles!) Who can identify a couple of created "kinds"? (Aron-Ra) Miscellaneous/PRATT Related Info The Age of the Universe (AnEmpiricalAgnostic) Anatomy of a PRATT (AnEmpiricalAgnostic) Are scientists stupid or is there a conspiracy (Arikay) Argument from incredulity (h2whoa) Aron's rebuttal of Mark Ramsey: Introduction (Includes Archive of Related Threads) (Aron-Ra) Challenge to Creationists! (Vance) The Collected Errors & Lies Of Kent Hovind (Mechanical Bliss) A comparison of scholarship: typical creationist vs. qualified biologist(s) (mikeynov) Conflicting Claims (Irish_Guevara) Court's in Session: Creationist Lies -- Prove it (owen_rocks) The Creationist/Evolutionist Turing Test (Jet Black) Creationist FAQ (ashibaka) Creationist Politicking (Mechanical Bliss) A critique of BibleLife.org’s article about bird evolution (Aggie) Dembski admits Intelligent Design is a religious position (Aron-Ra) Dr. Dino, a look at an article... (Arikay) Entropy and Closed Systems (Dragar) Ever the Expert (Jet Black) Evidence For creationism Take 3 (Arikay) Evolution, creation science and economic impact (Pete Harcoff) evolution and gravity: evidence is not interpreted (caravelair) Faith Presumption and science (Vance) How many experts, even Christian experts, accept Creation Science? (Vance) Ica, not Inca stones. (Mistermystery) If evolutionary theory is "bad science", then why do so many study it? (Late_Cretaceous) Information theory and you: how random mutations add information to the genome (Chalnoth) A Look at AIG's Evidence (Arikay) Photosynthesis, entropy and the second law of thermodynamics (The Seeker) Probability and Evolution (random_guy) Quantum Mechanics and the Cosmological Argument (Lucretius) A stance of arrogance? (h2whoa) The Second Law Fallacy (chilehed) Second Law of Thermodynamics (lucaspa) The Sumerian Flood Narrative (Epic of Gilgamesh Tablet XI) (Vance) TE and ID, ever the twain shall meet? (Vance) Tornado Through a Junkyard? (aeroz19) Transitional fossils and Xeno's Paradox (Ryal Kane) We scientists (h2whoa) What I'd like to see from creationists... (Pete Harcoff) What "kind" is it? (Lady Shea) Why do professional creationists lie? (Mechanical Bliss) Why I post, or "Yes, you can be a Christian and accept evolution" (Vance) Why 'ID theory' fails (Electric Sceptic) YECists: If Genesis was absolutely disproven, what would you do? (aeroz19) YECs require evolution (Pete Harcoff) Your credentials (Humanista) Embedded Age' and Why it's wrong(BananaSlug)
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15th February 2006, 10:34 AM
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__________________ "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." -- Stephen Roberts "There once was a time when all people believed in God and the church ruled. This time was called the Dark Ages." -- Richard Lederer "No, his mind is not for rent To any God or government." -- Rush
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15th February 2006, 10:34 AM
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__________________ "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." -- Stephen Roberts "There once was a time when all people believed in God and the church ruled. This time was called the Dark Ages." -- Richard Lederer "No, his mind is not for rent To any God or government." -- Rush
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15th February 2006, 04:25 PM
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__________________ "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." -- Stephen Roberts "There once was a time when all people believed in God and the church ruled. This time was called the Dark Ages." -- Richard Lederer "No, his mind is not for rent To any God or government." -- Rush | 
19th June 2006, 10:47 AM
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__________________ "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." -- Stephen Roberts "There once was a time when all people believed in God and the church ruled. This time was called the Dark Ages." -- Richard Lederer "No, his mind is not for rent To any God or government." -- Rush
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19th June 2006, 11:21 AM
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9th July 2006, 10:49 AM
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Reps: 2,824 (power: 13) | | I nominate this thread: http://www.christianforums.com/t3007475-did-you-say-evolution-doesnt-teach-man-evolved-from-ape.html
Its so so brilliant. What we have is a Creationist strawman at the start, and then it turns into a massive debate (argument) about Taxonomy. Its the best inadvertant refutation of the OP post Ive ever seen, even if you didnt happen to agree with Aron. So much information here, it really does deserve to be put in the archive.
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18th August 2006, 03:19 AM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Edx I nominate this thread: http://www.christianforums.com/t3007...-from-ape.html
Its so so brilliant. What we have is a Creationist strawman at the start, and then it turns into a massive debate (argument) about Taxonomy. Its the best inadvertant refutation of the OP post Ive ever seen, even if you didnt happen to agree with Aron. So much information here, it really does deserve to be put in the archive.
Ed
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18th August 2006, 03:20 AM
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