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Our ancestors are monkeys, if you say so answer these questions...

1) why did (and how did) monkeys lost their feathers?
2) why did monkeys start walking upright? (even it is a disadvantage for them)
3)why did (ofcourse how did) they start talking?
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Old 14th January 2006, 06:12 PM
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I call Poe's Law.
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1. we are not descended from monkeys. we share a common ape ancestor with today's monkeys
2. there are no feathers in our evolutionary history. mammals split from reptiles and amphibians before birds developed. archeopteryx probably hunted mammals.
3. upright standing DOES cause some problems, but they may have been outweighed by the ability to hold a larger head, and thus a larger brain. bipedalism allows the body to carry a much heavier head than four-leggedness.
4. language is a more complex form of other communications already existing in the animal kingdom...
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Originally Posted by jeki
1) why did (and how did) monkeys lost their feathers?
2) why did monkeys start walking upright? (even it is a disadvantage for them)
3)why did (ofcourse how did) they start talking?
Why do you assume that monkeys needed feathers in order to evolve into upright apes who started talking like Darwin one day?
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I call Poe's Law.
With Poe's Law at one's behest and disposal, one could rule the world of biology.
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Originally Posted by jeki
1) why did (and how did) monkeys lost their feathers?
2) why did monkeys start walking upright? (even it is a disadvantage for them)
3)why did (ofcourse how did) they start talking?
(1) feathers?
(2) & (3) You're asking for a story. Whenever anyone asks "why?" in relation to an evolutionary change, they're asking for a story. Because no one can know why; we can only speculate.
So here's a story:
(2) Monkeys started walking upright (part of the time - they're not fully bipedal) because they could.
(3) Monkeys don't actually talk in the way we talk. They do utter noises, and these noises often have meaning, but it would be a stretch to call it "talk". Anyway, the reason they started is because they could.

If you ended up with some new trait, wouldn't you be tempted to try it out? And if it procured you some reproductive advantage, it would stand a better chance of being retained by the species.

I, for one, have the rather unusual ability to make a disgusting noise with my throat (without opening my mouth). I don't know if I developed this as a result of some mutation, or if I inherited it.
It's a trait I've attempted to exploit to improve my reproductive success, but none of my prospective mates has succumbed to its charms.
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Originally Posted by jeki
1) why did (and how did) monkeys lost their feathers?
2) why did monkeys start walking upright? (even it is a disadvantage for them)
3)why did (ofcourse how did) they start talking?

1. The Neanderthals plucked them.
2&3. Because we lost our feathers.

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Originally Posted by jeki
2) why did monkeys start walking upright? (even it is a disadvantage for them)
Bipedality allows us to spend less energy when walking long distances. And we all know that walking big distances is an advantage cause it is the way we went all over the world this way.

A VERY interesting website on bipedality.
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