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20th December 2005, 01:37 PM
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And he's Republican.
So let's see...appointed by President Bush, Christian, and a registered Republican. Sounds like one of those god-hating, liberal activist judges Pat Robertson warned me about. 
The ID response "this is an activist judge who has delusions of grandeur" is so funny I almost fell out of my chair laughing. 
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20th December 2005, 01:45 PM
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Reps: 6,626 (power: 21) | | Originally Posted by Hydra009 The ID response "This is an activist judge who has delusions of grandeur" is so funny I almost fell out of my chair laughing.
It's fairly clear that the DI either wrote this without reading the decision, or are just lying through their teeth. Their claim that Jones " conflated Discovery Institute’s position with that of the Dover school board" is flat-out wrong; he clearly identifies ID as a form of creationism primarily from the writings, sworn testimonies, and arguments of the leading proponents of ID. He did not misrepresent anything; his conclusions follow directly from their own words. He did nothing more than examine their position fairly and come to the obvious conclusion.
The defence they're taking was an obvious one even before the decision came out, however. Whether they've read it or not, their characterization of Jones' position is fundamentally dishonest.
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20th December 2005, 01:52 PM
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Reps: 25 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by MartinM It's fairly clear that the DI either wrote this without reading the decision, or are just lying through their teeth. Their claim that Jones "conflated Discovery Institute’s position with that of the Dover school board" is flat-out wrong; he clearly identifies ID as a form of creationism primarily from the writings, sworn testimonies, and arguments of the leading proponents of ID. He did not misrepresent anything; his conclusions follow directly from their own words. He did nothing more than examine their position fairly and come to the obvious conclusion.
The defence they're taking was an obvious one even before the decision came out, however. Whether they've read it or not, their characterization of Jones' position is fundamentally dishonest.
I think Jones is an athiest trying to protect his religious beliefs like the rest of you guys. |
20th December 2005, 01:54 PM
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Reps: 1,801 (power: 12) | | Originally Posted by SamCJ I think Jones is an athiest trying to protect his religious beliefs like the rest of you guys.
An atheist Republican Bush appointee whose only religion is evolution you mean? I didn't know those existed.
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20th December 2005, 01:55 PM
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Reps: 29,485 (power: 47) | | Originally Posted by SamCJ I think Jones is an athiest trying to protect his religious beliefs like the rest of you guys.
He's a Lutheran. And did you just imply that the theistic evolutionists are not Christians?
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20th December 2005, 02:00 PM
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Reps: 129,461,683,782,430,688 (power: 129,461,683,782,459) | | Originally Posted by SamCJ I think Jones is an athiest trying to protect his religious beliefs like the rest of you guys.
This is a joke, intended to get some reactions, right?  |
20th December 2005, 02:06 PM
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Reps: 846 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Hydra009 And he's Republican.
So let's see...appointed by President Bush, Christian, and a registered Republican. Sounds like one of those god-hating, liberal activist judges Pat Robertson warned me about.
The ID response "this is an activist judge who has delusions of grandeur" is so funny I almost fell out of my chair laughing.
It's really not at all surprising though.
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20th December 2005, 02:06 PM
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Reps: 56,320,602,912,654 (power: 56,320,602,921) | | Originally Posted by SamCJ I think Jones is an athiest trying to protect his religious beliefs like the rest of you guys.
I suppose he's lying about being a Republican then? We ALL know Republicans are good, God-fearing citizens...
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20th December 2005, 02:10 PM
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Reps: 45,671 (power: 66) | | | Just out of curiousity, is there anyone who doesn't agree with ID and isn't an atheist? Because every single time someone stands up to it and disagrees, BAM, instant atheist. Kinda makes you wonder how where churches get their congregations from on Sunday, with all these atheists apparently everywhere. Maybe they bus them in from Kansas and return them all home by Monday?
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20th December 2005, 02:11 PM
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Reps: 62,980,802,845,148,856 (power: 62,980,802,845,162) | | Originally Posted by SamCJ I think Jones is an athiest trying to protect his religious beliefs like the rest of you guys.
Why let facts get in your way, is that it?
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