Neanderthal Evolution

A sizeable fraction of anthropologists DO believe that there was some input of Neanderthal genes to modern humans. All but one anthropologist (of which I am aware Tattersall) believe that there was some interbreeding.

All neo-Darwinist race theorists need to divide Fossil Man up into different 'species' though, in order to create the illusion of a gradual transition from African monkey and ape ancestors. Take Homo erectus away from them and their neo-Darwinist racial theories wouldn't have two erect legs left to stand on.

A sizeable fraction of anthropologists DO believe that there was some input of Neanderthal genes to modern humans. All but one anthropologist (of which I am aware Tattersall) believe that there was some interbreeding.

The thing is, though, John's gone overboard with the business by claiming that, in fact, Neanderthal are singularly ancestral to him and indeed Caucasians in general, and that early Homo species are ancestral to Negroids only. One wonders what he names as ancestor to Orientals.

Actually, let's. John, if memory serves, a century or so ago there were five races identified - the white race or Caucasians, the black race or Negroids, the red race (aboriginal Americans), the Yellow race (Orientals today), and the brown race (Malaysian and Oceanic people).

So if Neanderthal are ancestors to Caucasians and Homo species to Negroids, as you claim, who would you theorize (in a loose sense of the world) as transforming into the remaining three races?

Well, john, I can't speak for friend Nathan, but personally:
- I have learned a great deal about the world. Not only have I been prompted to educate myself not only about evolution but about other sciences and history, but I also learned that I have led a rather sheltered life in terms of the viewpoints of other people.
- I have gained a vast increase of capability to understand and accept other viewpoints and to share my ideas and listen to the ideas of others.
- I have my own increase of knowledge, a greater experience of my world, and a lot of hours which might otherwise have been wasted to show for my time here.

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Are you advocating the erasure of evidence for the purpose of removing evolution theory's support? You heard it here, everyone. Yes, john, good job. Without its evidence, the theory wouldn't have evidence. You've just completed a syllogism. Do you feel proud?

I know that there are some anthropologists who think neanderthals contributed to the human genome, but recent work seems to have cast that theory into doubt. Still that was mitochondrial evidence and would not rule out descent from a male neanderthal.

I remember reading somewhere (Scientific American?) the idea that blonde hair and blue eyes were neanderthal traits. Also, there was a burial in the caves of Mount Carmel in Israel that showed both modern and neanderthal traits.

Yes, get rid of all those Homo erectus fossils. Burn 'em or something. Re-bury them! Cremate them! After all, they are just the dusty remains of some poor neo-Darwinst 'species' in Asia that was originally obliterated when superior Homo sapiens marched out of Africa and replaced those old erect Homos by driving them into mass graves and final extinction. The modern Out of Africa Model is the perfect solution for getting rid of a whole species of humans even if they do leave some fossil evidence of their 1.5 million year existance on the planet before those sapiens got invented.

I don't claim that "early Homo species are ancestral to Negroids only," and never have. You misinterpret my statements and project your own racial misunderstandings and beliefs into the discussion. My postion is that Neanderthal Man was sapient from the beginning and is ancestral to all Homo sapiens, whether in Africa or any other part of the world. You start out with small brained hominids in Africa evolving into larger brained Homo sapiens throughout the world whereas I start with big-brained Neanderthal descendents of Noah who metamorphized into Heidleberg Man who in turn was ancestral to Modern Man.

Really, and who was doing the identifying if not scientific race theorists?

Your question is as pathetic as your false assumption that I claim Homo species are ancestral to "Negroids" is. The modern Neanderthal theory of human descent from Noah's three sons doesn't divide humanity up into either races or species, but sees the ancestors of modern men and women in various genealogical lines of human descent from three Neanderthal families.