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Shroud of Turin proven genuine by REAL science

Most people probably heard by now all kinds of stories about Shroud of Turin being fake, etc. Well, once again we have been fooled by our biased media. See what the REAL scientists have discovered. Also, see how the other "scientist" faked the results to support their atheistic believes.



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Can you paraphrase? Some of us ARE on dialup, you know.

And by the way, does the phrase "REAL scientists" mean those you agree with?
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Hazy, same old arguments with a nice dose of "If you are not Catholic you are going to burn in hell" thrown in at the end for kicks.

There was no new evidence shown and no new arguments, over all I found it a sad waste of my time and bandwidth.
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Basically it proves that the C14 test they did was totally flawed, plus there is strong evidence that the whole thing was a delibaerate fraud. They tried really hard to disprove it and they did a really good job.

Plus even if they didn't, C14 dating is a joke. It ususally doesn't work with samples with known age, so whu should it work with unknown age ? I think Vatican should never have allowed that test.
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lol this hole post is a joke.
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c-14 dating is actually pretty accurate in many cases. Not only that, but the overwhelming consensus of even very sonservative Christian scientists has been that the shroud is a forgery. Doesn't absolutely prove it's a forgery, but casts enough reasonable doubt to where I don't put any faith in it.

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Originally posted by RCC
Basically it proves that the C14 test they did was totally flawed, plus there is strong evidence that the whole thing was a delibaerate fraud. They tried really hard to disprove it and they did a really good job.

Plus even if they didn't, C14 dating is a joke. It ususally doesn't work with samples with known age, so whu should it work with unknown age ? I think Vatican should never have allowed that test.
And your going to prove C-14 dating false...How?? With what hard scientific evidence?

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C-14 is based on number of fauly assumption:

1. The rate of C-14 decay has always been the same
2. The amount of C-14 in the atmosphere has always been the same (not true)

Many evolutionist say that there is absolutely no reliable dating method.
They did many tests with samples of known age and the results were very wrong. So if they base their claim that the Shroud of Turin is a fake on C-14 dating then that's not a proof to me. If it's a fake how come there is no paint on it ?
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Unlike what they said in your video, C14 dating does not assume either if those things. Infact there are many correcting factors because we know that C14 levels were different in the past.

It would help if you learned a little bit about C14 dating before claiming it to be false.
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Originally posted by RCC
C-14 is based on number of fauly assumption:

1. The rate of C-14 decay has always been the same
Nuclear decay rates are very stable. With what evidence are you claiming that the decay rate has changed?

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