Shroud of Turin proven genuine by REAL science

Chris†opher Paul · #**201** 1st October 2002, 01:14 PM

s0uljah, I can only find it ironic that you have accused TheBear of being childish yet you are the only one yelling here.

I am "yelling" because these games being played are annoying.

ocean · #**202** 1st October 2002, 01:15 PM

Radiation screws C14, not fire.

Chris†opher Paul · #**203** 1st October 2002, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by Starscream
Can't help but admit that he has a good point there.  I suppose it is easier to discredit your opponent than to give credit to your beliefs?

Here is a list of topics in this thread that are still lacking support (please feel free to add to the list):

1)  that fire skews C-14

2)  that the image of "Jesus" on the Shroud was caused by "radiation burn"

3)  that the shroud is 2000 years old.

4)  I believe Rufus is still awaiting references to a scientific journal.  (I don't understand why this in particular is such a challenge).

Let's avoid the ad homs and provide the proof, ok?

Hey Starscam-

How about you re-read what I wrote, since you say you read the entire thread.  The results of the microorganism tainting the C14 isnt published  in a scientific journal, since the scientists that found this to be the case can't get the Catholic Church to verify that they have genuine samples.

The Church moves very slowly in general, and it is in their interest to support these findings.  If they were trying to fake something, why not give approval to those two about their samples?

Nevertheless, these findings were referenced in a scientific journal, the Glyph. 

Rufus keeps asking for what he knows I cant give him, in order to play games.

Starscream · #**204** 1st October 2002, 01:19 PM

I am "yelling" because these games being played are annoying.

You are doing more than yelling though, aren't you?  You are also being quite presumptious of others here, are you not?

So your behavior is justified because you feel "annoyed"?  Still, I can't help but notice the irony in you calling TheBear childish.

I see that TheBear has politely left the conversation to await your evidence - man, talk about immature :rolleyes:

Chris†opher Paul · #**205** 1st October 2002, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by ocean
Radiation screws C14, not fire.

As do micro-organisms living on the Shroud.

Chris†opher Paul · #**206** 1st October 2002, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by Starscream

I see that TheBear has politely left the conversation to await your evidence - man, talk about immature :rolleyes: [/b]

Why dont you do the same instead of trying to make me look bad.   You have provided nothing to this debate other than cheerleading for the atheist-protestant duo. :rolleyes:

ocean · #**207** 1st October 2002, 01:21 PM

Microorganisms normally don't mess up C14.

Chris†opher Paul · #**208** 1st October 2002, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by ocean
Microorganisms normally don't mess up C14.

Then explain the mummy wrappings being dated 1000 years or so too early.

TheBear · #**209** 1st October 2002, 01:23 PM

Thank you all for the opportunity to discuss this. But, the fact that this has been reduced to personal attacks on me, I will bow out of this discussion. God has better things in mind, and the shroud really has no relavence whatsoever in my walk with Him.

May God richly bless you all.

John

Chris†opher Paul · #**210** 1st October 2002, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by TheBear
Thank you all for the opportunity to discuss this. But, the fact that this has been reduced to personal attacks on me, I will bow out of this discussion. God has better things in mind, and the shroud really has no relavence whatsoever in my walk with Him.

May God richly bless you all.

John

Personal attacks on you?  How is your pointing out your Protestant belief an attack on you?  Do you hold your views as shameful?