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Old 1st October 2002, 01:20 AM
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Let me just say, I have gone into this whole shroud discussion from a neutral position. I don't need any piece of lauded evidence to strengthen my faith in God. Nor will the lack of authenticity diminish my faith in the least. If the shroud is proven to be the authentic burial cloth of Christ, it will amount to nothing more than an interesting topic of conversation to me. If the shroud is proven to be a fake, so be it.

That being said, it seems that some people really need to have this thing proven authentic, while others are hell-bent on proving it a hoax.

I just want to discuss the facts on the subject of the shroud. There is absolutely no need for anyone to try to second guess my motives, (I just spelled them out), nor is there any need for people to question my faith in God. That is an insult and a sin.

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Old 1st October 2002, 01:22 AM
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And that is what I said I am looking for as we speak. I just ran across that and wanted to share it for the many lurkers who will never post.

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Originally posted by isshinwhat
No, John, I think I'll wait on yours.

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Come on, Neal!

In answering my question, you will have answered your own.

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Now....Back to the 'fire and high temperatures skew C-14 results' claim. I still await support of this claim.


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I don't have a question. I don't believe there is a difference. What I am wondering is why do you?

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Originally posted by isshinwhat
I don't have a question. I don't believe there is a difference. What I am wondering is why do you?

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Huh?
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Old 1st October 2002, 01:32 AM
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What is the difference between the Shroud and the Handkerchief?

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Originally posted by isshinwhat
And that is what I said I am looking for as we speak. I just ran across that and wanted to share it for the many lurkers who will never post.
Thank you for showing some initiative. I really appreciate it.
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You're welcome.  I'm trying... Not too successfully at this point, though...
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Originally posted by TheBear
I care about this because it was used as an discussion point, to support the argument that the C-14 tests were skewed. Once I have thouroughly exausted that, and all can see it with no more arguments, I will move to the next discussion point, and thouroughly discuss that. One by one, so on and so on - one point at a time.

This is how I operate - very logically, methodically and thouroughly. So, please be patient with me. There really is no hurry, is there?


Thanks,
John
Things don't seem to follow one's plans for discussion around here. They always seem to take a path of their own.
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