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Let me just say, I have gone into this whole shroud discussion from a neutral position. I don't need any piece of lauded evidence to strengthen my faith in God. Nor will the lack of authenticity diminish my faith in the least. If the shroud is proven to be the authentic burial cloth of Christ, it will amount to nothing more than an interesting topic of conversation to me. If the shroud is proven to be a fake, so be it.
That being said, it seems that some people really need to have this thing proven authentic, while others are hell-bent on proving it a hoax.
I just want to discuss the facts on the subject of the shroud. There is absolutely no need for anyone to try to second guess my motives, (I just spelled them out), nor is there any need for people to question my faith in God. That is an insult and a sin.
And that is what I said I am looking for as we speak. I just ran across that and wanted to share it for the many lurkers who will never post.
Neal
__________________ War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. John Stuart Mill English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)
I don't have a question. I don't believe there is a difference. What I am wondering is why do you?
Neal
__________________ War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. John Stuart Mill English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)
What is the difference between the Shroud and the Handkerchief?
Neal
__________________ War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. John Stuart Mill English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)
Originally posted by isshinwhat And that is what I said I am looking for as we speak. I just ran across that and wanted to share it for the many lurkers who will never post.
Thank you for showing some initiative. I really appreciate it.
__________________ ~~RvFvS~~ Evolution: The change of properties of populations of organisms over time. Microevolution: Evolution apparent within species. Macroevolution: Evolution apparent between species.
The accuracy of science cannot be determined by emotion, philosophy, politics, or religion.
You're welcome. I'm trying... Not too successfully at this point, though...
__________________ War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. John Stuart Mill English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)
Originally posted by TheBear I care about this because it was used as an discussion point, to support the argument that the C-14 tests were skewed. Once I have thouroughly exausted that, and all can see it with no more arguments, I will move to the next discussion point, and thouroughly discuss that. One by one, so on and so on - one point at a time.
This is how I operate - very logically, methodically and thouroughly. So, please be patient with me. There really is no hurry, is there?
Thanks,
John
Things don't seem to follow one's plans for discussion around here. They always seem to take a path of their own.
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