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They are all primates as well. They are also mammals, vertebrates, metazoans, coelomates, and eukaryotes.
Only according to neo-Darwinist racial theories of human evolution.
Do you have a better way of objectively dating rocks? If so, I would like to see it.
Sure. Rocks are rocks, gold is gold, diamonds are diamonds and no radiometric dating techniques can determine their value or age.
It's a fact that those rocks have been dated, using radiometric methodologies, to approx. 3.5 billion years before present.
Yes, that is a fact, however wrong those dates are.
You can disagree, but I doubt you have any scientific objections.
Are you kidding. Creation scientists have blown your radiometric dating schemes to smithereems.
Before we start throwing around "blind acceptance", perhaps you should tell me the reasons you have for throwing out radiometric dating.
Creation scientists have disproved their scientific accuracy.
So the DNA of living species and the fossils found in the ground are science fiction?
Only the DNA of fossils are science fiction.
These real life objects and chemicals do evidence evolution, as 99.9% of biologists will tell you. You can argue that evolution did not occur, but this does not make the evidence disappear.
There is no evidence to disappear in the first place.
Type in "darwinist race theory" into a search engine. Every single hit you recieve will refer to John Crawford. Neo Darwinist race theories do not seem to exist anywhere outside of Johns mind.
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Type in "darwinist race theory" into a search engine. Every single hit you recieve will refer to John Crawford. Neo Darwinist race theories do not seem to exist anywhere outside of Johns mind.
If you had a search engine in 1860 and typed in 'Darwin evolutionary theory,' you might be surprised to find that it didn't exist except in a book which he published the year before.
Thanks for giving me so much credit for being the originator of neo-Darwinist race theories on the Internet, RK, but if you type 'evolutionary racism' into your search engine, you'll find I'm only a Johnny-come-lately. Sorry to disappoint you.
There is no such thing as a Christian scientist. There are only scientists, Christian and non-Christian. When being Christian makes the "science", it's no longer science. When you feel the need to qualify your science as Christian science, it becomes highly suspect.
Where I work, we teach young people science. We give them diplomas that say Bachelor of Science. We don't teach them atheist science or Christian science or any qualified science, just science. They adhere to Muslim, Jewish, Christian and many other religious faiths or they are atheist, but they all do science.
"Christian science" has not repudiated radiometric dating, though they've tried, often through distortions, misrepresentations and lies. Radiometric techniques are still widely accepted by scientists as valid methodologies within acknowledged limits.
Enough, john.
__________________ Evolution is NOT a theory. It is an observation of change over time in life forms, the evidence for which is too staggering to be deniable by reasonable people. It is fact. Evolutionary theory seeks to explain evolution. Evolutionary theory is not complete and it is not 100% proven. Use of the phrase 'Theory of Evolution' (ToE) is misleading, as it conveys to the lay person the incorrect impression that evolution is uncertain, hypothetical and/or unproven.
I hope as an evolutionist I didn't shock people with that confession. But seriously, I can't believe that someone resorted to calling someone else a TE stooge.
I am not sure that anyone who resorts to insults is really here to discuss.
M. even if TEs were 100 percent stooges that doesn't make evolution false. You need evidence to do that.
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In some respects, science has far surpassed religion in delivering awe. How is it that hardly any major religion has looked at science and concluded, "This is better than we thought! The universe is much bigger than out prophets said, grander, more subtle, more elegant. God must be even greater than we dreamed"? Instead they say, "No, no, no! My god is a little god, and I want him to stay that way." _-Carl Sagan
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But seriously, I can't believe that someone resorted to calling someone else a TE stooge. 
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