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Old 20th November 2005, 03:17 AM
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Remember when the liberal media was hammering into people's skulls that HIV would move into the general population in no time at all?

Haven't heard much about that threat recently. Not in....oh...10 or 15 years in fact.

Odd the media didn't give as much time exploring how they could have gotten it so wrong as they did putting out the flawed predictions.
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Old 20th November 2005, 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by GhostDad
edit: I should add that it's also a male prison problem in America
Strictly speaking, this is a homosexual problem too. Homosexual prisoners force themselves on weaker inmates, giving them HIV. (Now, the fact that prison guards watch this going on with delight is another problem. I was speaking strictly of the nature of how the virus is spread in prisoners.)
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Originally Posted by Voegelin
Remember when the liberal media was hammering into people's skulls that HIV would move into the general population in no time at all?

Haven't heard much about that threat recently. Not in....oh...10 or 15 years in fact.

Odd the media didn't give as much time exploring how they could have gotten it so wrong as they did putting out the flawed predictions.
Yeah. All that hype and you still can only get AIDs if you're a gay man.

Oh no.. wait.. don't hetrosexual people get it too?
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Originally Posted by indra_fanatic
Strictly speaking, this is a homosexual problem too. Homosexual prisoners force themselves on weaker inmates, giving them HIV. (Now, the fact that prison guards watch this going on with delight is another problem. I was speaking strictly of the nature of how the virus is spread in prisoners.)
I'm not sure that it's technically soley homosexual prisoners. It's often individuals who would identify as hetrosexual and be uniquly hetrosexually active outside of a prison but act as they do in a single sex environment.

I could be wrong about this though. Anyone got any psychology reports or research on this?
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Originally Posted by GhostDad
HIV is a homosexual problem in America.
HIV is a IV drug problem in Russia.
HIV is a promiscuity problem in Brazil.
HIV is a multi-faceted problem in South Africa.
Here are some facts on the AIDS epidemic. HIV being spread by consensual sex is very sad-but also just a small part of the problem. HIV being spread by rape, drugs, unsanitary medical conditions, sexual slavery and ignorance affects many more lives, and needs just as much attention as consensual sex-spread HIV.

http://www.unaids.org/wad2004/EPIupd...pi04_00_en.htm
http://www.unaids.org/wad2004/EPIupd...htm#P251_74232

That being said, testing, the promotion of responsible, loving relationships, and of course, and respecting others must be increased.
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Originally Posted by Ryal Kane
Unfortunately attitudes have become a lot more lax over recent years as to safe sex. The lat eighties early ninties were a real scare period for AIDS.
Ironically, the improvements in treatment have caused people to become more lax and think that AIDS isn't the threat it used to be.

The problem here is not inherantly homosexual men having sex but the way they are doing it.
I think the state of the epidemic in Africa shows that HIV/AIDS it has nothing at all to do with sexual orientation.
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Originally Posted by Voegelin
Remember when the liberal media was hammering into people's skulls that HIV would move into the general population in no time at all?

Haven't heard much about that threat recently. Not in....oh...10 or 15 years in fact.

Odd the media didn't give as much time exploring how they could have gotten it so wrong as they did putting out the flawed predictions.


Well it has moved into the heterosexual community.



HIV/AIDS case rate new cases- women - 50.2 percent. African American women are disproportionably represented, their infection rate is 25 times higher then the rate for white women.



71% of HIV transmission were due to heterosexual contact



AIDS is the sixth leading cause of death for women in the United States.





http://www.kff.org/hivaids/upload/Women-and-HIV-AIDS-in-the-United-States-UPDATE.pdf





Sadly there are some conservatives and conservative groups so desperate to justify hate and discrimination against homosexual males that information about the prevalence and effect of HIV/AIDS among heterosexuals is ignored.



The big question is if it is all right to justify discrimination against homosexuals because of a virus like HIV…and since this virus disproportionably affects people of color…is it also all right to use HIV/AIDS to justify racism?
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Old 20th November 2005, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryal Kane
Unfortunately attitudes have become a lot more lax over recent years as to safe sex. The lat eighties early ninties were a real scare period for AIDS.
Ironically, the improvements in treatment have caused people to become more lax and think that AIDS isn't the threat it used to be.
And the fear of AIDS also made many parents and school districts want to teach students about safer sex and condom usage. When I went to school in the 1990s, we had the chance of AIDS drilled into our heads, and were told over and over that the only safe sex is no sex, and that correct condom use can reduce your chances of getting AIDS by a lot. Today, all you can tell kids about is condom failure rates. You can't even tell them that condoms prevent AIDS if your program receives federal funding! It's absurd.

Originally Posted by Voegelin
Remember when the liberal media was hammering into people's skulls that HIV would move into the general population in no time at all?

Haven't heard much about that threat recently. Not in....oh...10 or 15 years in fact.

Odd the media didn't give as much time exploring how they could have gotten it so wrong as they did putting out the flawed predictions.
Maybe because the straight population it moved into was the straight African community, and we don't care about what happens to Africa? Yeah, that bleeding heart liberal media.

Originally Posted by christianmarine
Heterosexuals can't even maintain a marriage, so what makes anyone else think that homosexuals will to. As for the sex education portion, I thought that was already taught in schools. Either way, any type of unprotected sex, multiple sex partners, and high risk behvior is going to cause more harm than good.
While schools do have sex ed, the government only funds abstinence-only programs. That means that birth control and condoms can ONLY be discussed in terms of failure rates. They can NEVER be presented as potentially protecting students from pregnancy or disease. You are barred by law, if you receive federal funds for your sex ed program, from saying that condoms used properly can greatly reduce the chances of HIV transmission.

Obviously, risky sexual behavior is a problem, in many ways. But, the question is what causes risky sexual behavior? We know that certain minority groups that have NOTHING in common other than facing a huge deal of society discrimination are more likely to engage in risky sexual behavior than other groups, and to have more negative consequences from it: more teen pregnancies, more STD infections, more sexual partners. It seems reasonable to conclude that when you are marginalized or outright rejected by society, you might be more inclined to engage in self-destructive behavior. While the responsibilty for engaging in the behavior lies with the people engaging in it, obviously, the responsibility for creating the circumstances under which self-destructive behavior becomes common lies with the society as a whole.
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Originally Posted by indra_fanatic
Strictly speaking, this is a homosexual problem too. Homosexual prisoners force themselves on weaker inmates, giving them HIV. (Now, the fact that prison guards watch this going on with delight is another problem. I was speaking strictly of the nature of how the virus is spread in prisoners.)
Like another poster said, these men are most likely heterosexual in orientation, raping other men for a number of reasons, power and dominance of course being the first.
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Originally Posted by Voegelin
Remember when the liberal media was hammering into people's skulls that HIV would move into the general population in no time at all?

Haven't heard much about that threat recently. Not in....oh...10 or 15 years in fact.

Odd the media didn't give as much time exploring how they could have gotten it so wrong as they did putting out the flawed predictions.
It's their job to be sensational, liberal and conservative outlets.
 


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