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22nd September 2002, 11:48 AM
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I ...find ludicrous the whole notion that the "all powerful" war god of iron age goat herders trifurcated into flesh in order to kill himself as a necessary sacrifice of himself to himself in order to protect all of us from himself over a fruit tree dispute. ~~LadyShea
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22nd September 2002, 12:48 PM
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Exactly seebs. Catholics believe that they eat the actual, literal body and blood of Christ. That's almost human sacrificial cannibalism. But hey, let's look at Christians in general. Christians thrive, spiritually, on the brutal human sacrifice of a man that did nothing wrong.
We can't even just say "oh, that's okay, because He was willing", because, as memory serves, many or all of the Aztec sacrifices were willing, too.
And yet, it feels different. Perhaps because, in our case, it was specifically intended as a proxy for any and all other possible sacrifices. Perhaps just because it's *our* religion. |
22nd September 2002, 01:14 PM
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considered "evil", since most of them support things which are immoral and
anti-God. Unfortunately, the American government allows for this evil to
take place. Some countries actually do the right thing and establish
Christianity as the official religion, and ban some of the 'evil' religions.
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22nd September 2002, 01:43 PM
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For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. -- Romans 8:38-39 |
22nd September 2002, 01:46 PM
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Every one is entitled to express their own beliefs and religion as long as it doesn´t violate human rights.
If Christians have a problem with that, then I really feel sorry for those "christians".
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Reps: 82,864,414,902 (power: 82,864,435) | | Originally posted by seebs
We can't even just say "oh, that's okay, because He was willing", because, as memory serves, many or all of the Aztec sacrifices were willing, too.
And yet, it feels different. Perhaps because, in our case, it was specifically intended as a proxy for any and all other possible sacrifices. Perhaps just because it's *our* religion.
Maybe its because it was God sacrificing Himself that makes it different. It no longer has the possibility of delusion and manipulation that other human sacrifices have.
Perhaps the difference comes from the fact that those doing the killing are not exalted. God would have prefered to act differently, but our choices lead Him to suffer this way. |
22nd September 2002, 05:52 PM
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Reps: 56 (power: 0) | | | No good arguments yet about what makes Hindus or pagans evil--hmmm. Several decent arguments that Christianity or some forms of it are evil.
How very interesting.
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22nd September 2002, 07:19 PM
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An evil religion has a god who allows his faithful to have trials. Is that the summation of your post?
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22nd September 2002, 08:52 PM
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Hobart:
An evil religion has a god who allows his faithful to have trials. Is that the summation of your post?
--tibac
If it were merely "allow", then there would be no point.
Inflict is the word.
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