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8th November 2005, 01:16 PM
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I'm just wanted to ask this hypothetical question. If evolution was proven true (to your satisfaction) and there was absolutely no disagreement among religous leaders, scientists, and others that evolution took place over millions of years would that change your view of god? Would you lose faith? Would you still believe in god? What else would change for you? |
8th November 2005, 02:43 PM
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Reps: 18,485,917,141,881,588 (power: 18,485,917,141,890) | | Originally Posted by Matthew79 I'm just wanted to ask this hypothetical question. If evolution was proven true (to your satisfaction) and there was absolutely no disagreement among religous leaders, scientists, and others that evolution took place over millions of years would that change your view of god? Would you lose faith? Would you still believe in god? What else would change for you?
dumb question. hypothetical guestion like this are useless. |
8th November 2005, 02:44 PM
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Reps: 922 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Matthew79 I'm just wanted to ask this hypothetical question. If evolution was proven true (to your satisfaction) and there was absolutely no disagreement among religous leaders, scientists, and others that evolution took place over millions of years would that change your view of god? Would you lose faith? Would you still believe in god? What else would change for you?
if your view of God changed due to that then that is horribly weak faith
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Reps: 9,274,249 (power: 9,291) | | Originally Posted by Schroeder dumb question. hypothetical guestion like this are useless.
Why? Especially questions like the one asked by Matthew79 give insight in the thinking of (in this case) creationists. They tell us how hard it is for people to change their mind on this issue and what the prime motivators are for them to be creationists. I for one am very interested in the answers.
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8th November 2005, 02:50 PM
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8th November 2005, 04:02 PM
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Reps: 9,274,249 (power: 9,291) | | | And, in fact, we already know the answer from earlier threads where a similar question was asked. A fair share of the young earth creationists wouldn't change their thoughts on a young earth and evolution, even if God came down from heaven to tell them they are wrong.
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8th November 2005, 05:16 PM
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Reps: 84,929,301,057,186,064 (power: 84,929,301,057,204) | | Originally Posted by Tomk80 Why? Especially questions like the one asked by Matthew79 give insight in the thinking of (in this case) creationists. They tell us how hard it is for people to change their mind on this issue and what the prime motivators are for them to be creationists. I for one am very interested in the answers.
Let's not be too hasty. Without looking back, there were some very similar answers to the question "What if we found the ark." A little give an take might be helpful.
The problem is that nothing will ever be accepted as "proof" by creationists. If the strong concordance between radiometric dating methodologies is ignored by creationists, then I really can't see a way for the two camps to convince one another. Morton's Demon is simply too strong for some to overcome.
At the same time, it would only be fair for a creationist to answer back "If we found parts of the Death Star . . ." 
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8th November 2005, 05:43 PM
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Just thought that I would respond to your post....so perhaps others would find some more to talk about.....
In my opinion, if evolution was proven to be true, then that means that the Bible is false. Well, that there are mistakes in the Bible. If there are mistakes in the Bible then God is not all powerful because it was through Him that the Bible was made. I think that if evolution was proven true then there would be no all powerful God. Although I don't know for sure because believing in God is based on faith. But creationism is a big part of believing in the true God as I see it.
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8th November 2005, 05:52 PM
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Reps: 2,494 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Matthew79 I'm just wanted to ask this hypothetical question. If evolution was proven true (to your satisfaction) and there was absolutely no disagreement among religous leaders, scientists, and others that evolution took place over millions of years would that change your view of god? Would you lose faith? Would you still believe in god? What else would change for you?
I, the real Matthew, already started a poll on this: http://www.christianforums.com/t2242...n-as-fact.html 
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