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if God used either Creation or Evolution to create species. (hint:it was evolution )
But either way. Why did God make us dependent on the death of animals to live? Why do beef cows have to die in order for me to enjoy a Big Mac? We don't think about it often.
Some animal has to be preyed upon in the food chain. If we lived outside of civilization hunger would drive us to kill.
Why do they have to taste so good too?
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Why did God make us dependent on the death of animals to live? Why do beef cows have to die in order for me to enjoy a Big Mac?
assumption 1: there is a god
assumption 2: this god made anything
assumption 3: this god made us
presumption 1: we are dependent on the death of animals to live
presumption 2: a Big Mac is something to enjoy
presumption 3: you cannot make a Big Mac from tofu
counter-argument: no beef cows need die for tofu-based Big Macs
Seriously, though, we are omnivorous. We do have choices. We have free will. McD's has salads.
The food chain is the food chain. It's inevitable. If it didn't exist, it would self-generate - a consequence of Shelford's Law.
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It was not allways like that and before the flood there was no need to kill in order to eat. The fault was not with God but within ourselves. By the way, I am far from convinced that mass extinction has anything to do with adaptation. Most adaptation occures as a result of their being ample resources, not from scarcity.
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“Gärtner, by the results of these transformation experiments, was led to oppose the opinion of those naturalists who dispute the stability of plant species and believe in a continuous evolution of vegetation. He perceives in the complete transformation of one species into another an indubitable proof that species are fixed with limits beyond which they cannot change.” (G. Mendel)
if God used either Creation or Evolution to create species. (hint:it was evolution)
But either way. Why did God make us dependent on the death of animals to live? Why do beef cows have to die in order for me to enjoy a Big Mac? We don't think about it often.
Our dependency on animals occured at the Fall when we could no longer survive on just plants and fruits. God gave us animals to eat as meat and for protein. As for the death of cows, I never think about it because I don't think they care. Besides, cheeseburgers are way to good to give up.
Some animal has to be preyed upon in the food chain. If we lived outside of civilization hunger would drive us to kill.
To kill animals, yes, but humans? That will always happen but not for food. I imagine that people would taste pretty bad.
Why do they have to taste so good too?
Because God likes BigMac's too.
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if God used either Creation or Evolution to create species. (hint:it was evolution )
My super charged Zero Metor whos conclusively that evolution could not have taken place that Creation is the only way we all could have come into being.
But either way. Why did God make us dependent on the death of animals to live? Why do beef cows have to die in order for me to enjoy a Big Mac? We don't think about it often.
Something has to end, in order for there to be a new beginning.
In the Bible God always preserves a remenant to repopulate the earth. Looking at history things seem to work in mass extinctions and explosions. Change happens fairly quickly and rarely over long periods of time. Still, something has to come to a end, for there to be a new beginning.
Jesus is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end. We are told that for God the end is known from the beginning. In fact the end is contained within the beginning.
It was not allways like that and before the flood there was no need to kill in order to eat. The fault was not with God but within ourselves. By the way, I am far from convinced that mass extinction has anything to do with adaptation. Most adaptation occures as a result of their being ample resources, not from scarcity.
An opinion.
And scarcity in resource A cannot force adaptation to plentiful resource B?
And why do you even bring up mass extinction in this thread?
The fault for carnivorousness was not within ourselves nor god nor any flood but with opportunity, the promise of living another day and feeding the kids so they keep quiet.
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