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Currently, humans rely on a few hundred species of symbiotic bacteria to perform various tasks. One of those is the complete digestion of carbohydrates. Since glucose is by far our primary source of cellular energy, and since obtaining glucose requires completely digesting carbohydrates, it follows that we need these gut bacteria to survive.
Here I will assume that the standard creationist answer to the question, "Why should a well-designed organism need a symbiote to provide it with energy?" is, "Because of the Fall."
So then my question is: What happened? When the Fall removed Adam's ability to digest carbohydrates what did he do? Grab a handful of E. coli from the nearest petri dish and swallow it, hoping they would survive the acid bath in his stomach? Did God install them, thereby replacing the digestive capacity He had just removed? Something else?
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Where in the world did you get this stuff? Can you site your YEC sources?
What "YEC sources"? The only thing YEC-related in the OP is my speculation that the YEC response would be that the situation I describe is attributable to the Fall. If it wouldn't, that's fine. You are welcome to explain how the YEC actually accounts for bacteria-faciliated digestion.
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What "YEC sources"? The only thing YEC-related in the OP is my speculation that the YEC response would be that the situation I describe is attributable to the Fall. If it wouldn't, that's fine. You are welcome to explain how the YEC actually accounts for bacteria-faciliated digestion.
I'm trying to figure out why you assume prefallen Adam did not digest food as we do. You must have heard this somewhere. I realize you’re demanding YECs to give you an honest answer, but the question makes no sense. At least not yet.
I'm trying to figure out why you assume prefallen Adam did not digest food as we do. You must have heard this somewhere. I realize you’re demanding YECs to give you an honest answer, but the question makes no sense. At least not yet.
So God created a flawless human without the innate ability to obtain the molecule on which he relies for energy, instead sticking bacteria in there to do the job - bacteria that can on occasion hop out of the large intestine to create havoc in the host organism?
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So God created a flawless human without the innate ability to obtain the molecule on which he relies for energy, instead sticking bacteria in there to do the job - bacteria that can on occasion hop out of the large intestine to create havoc in the host organism?
I guess so. And what's worse we can't even created the energy on our own. We have to eat food all the time. Darn, why didn't He just put the food in there for us?
I guess so. And what's worse we can't even created the energy on our own. We have to eat food all the time. Darn, why didn't He just put the food in there for us?
Chlorophyll would be good... but we will still need bacteria for nitrogen-fixing.
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I guess so. And what's worse we can't even created the energy on our own. We have to eat food all the time. Darn, why didn't He just put the food in there for us?
Why, indeed.
If apparent defects can be explained away as not-really-defects, whence the Fall?
On second thought, never mind. You are in full ad hoc mode and I am not interested.
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I think the OP offers a good question. And for those who might like to try to answer it, here's another; Why did God create man to digest only plant materials, then later tell man that it was okay to consume animal flesh, knowing that this would be a detriment to man's health?
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If apparent defects can be explained away as not-really-defects, whence the Fall?
On second thought, never mind. You are in full ad hoc mode and I am not interested.
Just a little sarcasm to get my point across. It wasn’t meant to be insulting. I’m sorry if it was. BTW I believe sarcasm was prelapsarian also. Oops, did it again. You’re probably hating me about now.
I’ll just say find it interesting you consider eating food to be a defect in design (if indeed we are designed). Personally I enjoy the process and am glad God included it.
It’s almost as if you’re saying anything less that God duplicating Himself would be a defect in design. Any limits to man are bad somehow.
You must have heard this somewhere. I realize you’re demanding YECs to give you an honest answer, but the question makes no sense. At least not yet. 
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