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Could we intepretat the bible in a way so 2352 bc is something else like 7456 bc.
That would solve many problems.
No, moving the flood back would solve one problem; namely, the unbroken histories of civilisations during the usual flood period. The vast mountains of evidence showing that the flood never happened remain.
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No, moving the flood back would solve one problem; namely, the unbroken histories of civilisations during the usual flood period. The vast mountains of evidence showing that the flood never happened remain.
Yes but you can do as like millions of setup for how god did it, and u can argue about it, but for the unbroken histories of civilisations i don't know how u can argue about that?
No, moving the flood back would solve one problem; namely, the unbroken histories of civilisations during the usual flood period. The vast mountains of evidence showing that the flood never happened remain.
Apart from moving back the flood date to approx 10,000 years would bring it quite nicely to the 300 foot + rise in sea levels after the end of the last Ice Age. There are mountains of evidence that this happened.
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Apart from moving back the flood date to approx 10,000 years would bring it quite nicely to the 300 foot + rise in sea levels after the end of the last Ice Age. There are mountains of evidence that this happened.
But how does that fit in with the Bible? The Bible tells us how many years were between the time of the flood and the time of Abraham. It also says that the city of Ur and the Egyptian civilisation were around at the time of Abraham. You'd never be able to get a flood date any earlier than 4000 BC.
11 And after he became the father of Arphaxad, Shem lived 500 years and had other sons and daughters.
Genesis 11.12
12 When Arphaxad had lived 35 years, he became the father of Shelah.
Now verse 12 say "When Arphaxad had lived 35 years" but I dosen’t say from when, it could be from the day he was borne, but it could also been from the day his father died.
It is hard to say anything of how to intapretat what they were saying there because it depends on the culture in that time.
Sure, but u can intapretat herbew in many ways maybe you can intapretat it in a way which tells us that the flood was before 2352 bc.
You can play around with dates. But the bible indicates that all of the following aspects of civilization were in place before the flood occurred:
cities
pastoral cultures
development of music and musical instruments
metal work in bronze and iron
Genesis 4:17; 5:19-22
The mention of iron is significant as it is a much more difficult metal to work with than bronze. So smithing in iron is a relatively late development in ancient cultures. And the flood comes after that.
However, even if you place the flood well before the rise of agriculture and civilization, in the days when all humans were hunter-gatherers, (e.g. end of the ice age) there is still sufficient geological evidence to show that one is dealing with a number of local floods, not a global flood.
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Apart from moving back the flood date to approx 10,000 years would bring it quite nicely to the 300 foot + rise in sea levels after the end of the last Ice Age. There are mountains of evidence that this happened.
10,000 years ago the sea levels were lower than they are today. That's because there was a lot more water locked up in the ice of the retreating glaciers from the last Ice Age. The last ice age ended only about 12,000 years ago. And it ended gradually over many years slowly raising the sea level as the ice melted.
When the sea levels began to raise after the last Ice Age, the oceans were 300 feel lower than it is right now, and over time rose to their present level. Here in Oregon, the beach front was 25 miles further west than it is now.
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