the healing rooms of...

Balugon · #1 19th October 2005, 08:07 PM

have u guys ever heard of one of these? a guy in my church is the head of one in my area, and i guess there are only like 270 or less worldwide or something. I love it there. I help out there sometimes, and the presence of God is very strong there. U can feel it when u walk in. Someone told me that like the top two guys that head the place (the overall healing rooms thingy) or some of the head guys up there anyway, are doing weird things like trying to get anoitings off dead people, which scares me, but i know the guy in my church that heads the one in my area- and he is definitely A) full of God and lots of wisdom
and B) not like the other guys mentioned.

So what do u guys think about these places if any views at all? And if u guys want more info about their belief systems and stuff about them (at least i can tell u what the one in my area believes, heh) i can post again. There is just so little actual talk about healing ministries in this forum that i thought i would try to spice it up a little.

whitedove7 · #2 19th October 2005, 11:40 PM

Jesus healed in the past, present and will heal in the future. Praise the Lord that we are having healing rooms today.

Did you know the 3rd cause of death is prescriptions? Did you know that does not include street drugs? Did you know that the 7th cause of death is mistakes during surgeries? Most diseases are only maintained through prescriptions not cured.

Did you know the bible looks at pharmakia as sorcery? How far have we gotten away from the word of God. We depend so much on the medical community and left God out of it. In Revelation 21:8 “But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

According to W.E. Vine’s expository dictionary of New Testament Words (page 1074), the word SORCERY comes from a Greek word, PHARMAKIA - used as a noun, it “signifies a sorcerer,” one who uses drugs, potions, spells, enchantments, as in Rev. 21:8.
I agree, in what the scriptures say in James 5:13-15 it says

13 Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms.

14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

It says to go to our elders if afflicted to pray, anoint and even check to see if they have sin. 80% of diseases come from root issues.

Yes, I would rather go to the Lord or go to the healing rooms for healing than use drugs to keep me alive or to help me to better when they have a list of other side effects. Praise the Lord for healing rooms.

GlendaJoanne · #3 19th October 2005, 11:45 PM

My hubby and I went to a conference in Connecticut 2 weeks ago.. and they have healing rooms there..

I have been to conferences there 3 times.. and always wanted to go to the healing rooms.. and this time i did..

And God healed the lymphedema in my legs.. that I've had for the past 20 years.. caused my legs to swell and retain fluid..

Praise the Lord!

whitedove7 · #4 20th October 2005, 12:58 AM

There is a really good book called "A More Excellent Way" by Henry Wright! This book talks about why people are not healed today and how to get your healing. It is powerful in how to be healed mentally, physically, spiritually, emotionally, financially and relationally.

http://www.pleasantvalleychurch.net/...gory_Code=book

A lot of people get healed by reading the book and applying the principles. It even has a list of 33 blocks to healing and when you can identify some of the blocks and work through them. Did you know that 80% of diseases have spiritually rooted causes?

It changed my life and now I go to the Lord for my healing instead of doctors. I will go when I absolutely have too.

Balugon · #5 20th October 2005, 10:14 AM

whitedove, i dont think that word pharmakia or w/e means people using natural remedies, or even medicies is sin. I think it was leaning more toward the fact that a sorcerer was doing it, especially because he probably claimed it to be a magic potion or something, when it was really just a natural remedy he wasnt telling the people. If people accepted it as a magic potion and drank it and thanked the gods or something, yea, thats sin. but certain things even, our bodies need, like calcium, iron, lycopene (found in tomatos) and other things, and some of those are things that only plants have. So if someone is sick and they just need a certain plant (because its high in some nutrient, and their diet was including it) i dont see how that could be counted as sin at all. Besides, sorcerers also try to use their own soulish powers and that of the evil one to do evil things, including making potions, so taking stuff from a sorcerer who claims it will work on u is sin anyway. i think thats what God was getting at. And lastly, God gave the plants we have the medicinal properties that they have, why would he not want us to use them as long as we thank him for what he has created? I mean, i have used aloe vera gel (i forget from what plant) on my sunburn many times. Its effects are incredible. What normally would give me a really bad sunburn and cause a lot of damage to my skin is absorbed (or something) into the aloe, and my skin goes back to almost its normal color, and i feel much better. And God made that plant to be able to do that, so Praise God.

whitedove7 · #6 20th October 2005, 03:02 PM

I don't think natural remedies are not bad as long as we know how they were made like homeopathic for example. I take vitamins because it is hard to eat right all the time when I work and involved in many things, but when I'm sick, I check to see if t here is a cause or a spiritual root issue. The Lord is the Lord of our lives in every area of our lives and that is over our health issues. We have forgotten to include him in that area. That is changing now. If it is not a root issue and I need help, I go to the doctors if the Lord didn't heal me. When we go to the lessor instead of to God for healing when there is a root issue, then I have a problem because then you are looking at the medicine or remedy over God then that medicine has become our idol.

There is nothing wrong in using aloe vera for sunburns and other stuff. Sunburn is not a root issue. Breaking a leg is not a root issue not unless you did it on purpose and then there is a root issue operating of not taking care of yourself.

I am so thankful for the healing rooms popping up all over the nation and ministries like Pleasant Valley church in Georgia has where you stay an entire week hearing the word of God and people get healed of all types of diseases. Many people come with their oxygen tanks and when they leave, they leave their oxygen tanks behind, their crutches and wheelchairs. So, praise God for what the Lord is doing in this hour.

fieldlily · #7 23rd October 2005, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Balugon

have u guys ever heard of one of these? a guy in my church is the head of one in my area, and i guess there are only like 270 or less worldwide or something. I love it there. I help out there sometimes, and the presence of God is very strong there. U can feel it when u walk in. Someone told me that like the top two guys that head the place (the overall healing rooms thingy) or some of the head guys up there anyway, are doing weird things like trying to get anoitings off dead people, which scares me, but i know the guy in my church that heads the one in my area- and he is definitely A) full of God and lots of wisdom
and B) not like the other guys mentioned.

So what do u guys think about these places if any views at all? And if u guys want more info about their belief systems and stuff about them (at least i can tell u what the one in my area believes, heh) i can post again. There is just so little actual talk about healing ministries in this forum that i thought i would try to spice it up a little.

Hi, A pastor friend of mine and his wife have shared a little with me about the healing rooms. We lived in Spokane, WA. for some years where they said that many years ago the healing rooms began. I am not totally sure but I think that is where they all first began unless it is just those in the Pacific NW. or Washington State. Our friends were involved in helping in the healing rooms in a city in western WA. (not near Seattle) until recently. They are both elderly now and limited to ministry in their church where they are very active pastoring the seniors group.

I think there is a website about the history of healing rooms but would have to go to google to search.

I certainly believe in Divine healing and have most of my life but especially since the early seventies when I first got involved in prayer groups and the healing ministries connected with them. Some people seem to be gifted in this area, but they always remind people that the healing comes from God. The people who pray for others for healing are only instruments.

The scriptures are full of places where the prophets (Elisha, etc.) and, of course, Jesus and the apostles healed people by the power of God. But there are many ways in which God heals...my husband and I often just pray for people who may live across the seas so can't always lay hands on them. God heals...we pray. We rejoice.

I know that sometimes I have been healed through the reception of communion at my church. So that is possible too.

Well, I would like to know more about the current healing rooms myself. And I do agree that those who minister there should be those who have been approved by a church or Christian group of some kind...and who operate in wisdom and love.

In the Name of Jesus...our healer.

birdfriend.

RemarkAble · #8 14th November 2005, 02:52 AM

i must confess that i'm a little uncomfortable with going to a healing room for healing when the Healer, himself, is in my midst when i pray with one other person. it is He that should be our focus, not our healing, per se. to me, healing is crucial but trusting the Lord in every and all conditions and circumstances is absolutely essential.

Christdefinesme · #9 17th November 2005, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Balugon

have u guys ever heard of one of these? a guy in my church is the head of one in my area, and i guess there are only like 270 or less worldwide or something. I love it there. I help out there sometimes, and the presence of God is very strong there. U can feel it when u walk in. Someone told me that like the top two guys that head the place (the overall healing rooms thingy) or some of the head guys up there anyway, are doing weird things like trying to get anoitings off dead people, which scares me, but i know the guy in my church that heads the one in my area- and he is definitely A) full of God and lots of wisdom
and B) not like the other guys mentioned.

So what do u guys think about these places if any views at all? And if u guys want more info about their belief systems and stuff about them (at least i can tell u what the one in my area believes, heh) i can post again. There is just so little actual talk about healing ministries in this forum that i thought i would try to spice it up a little.

You need to check everything against the Word of God. A lot of the stuff you mentioned above is unbiblical. A lot of the stuff they "practice" is magical thinking and magical "prayers". Be careful. The Lord heals, but we all have the Holy Spirit if we've given ourselves to Christ. The Holy Spirit will do God's will on earth, you should have your pastors pray over you, for certain, or other Christians in your fellowship, but you don't need a "Healing Room" to experience God's presence.
Seek the Lord and His Word.
Go here, to, for help in this matter:
www.equip.org
you can submit a question about healing rooms and they will answer your questions biblically.
Take care.

Balugon · #10 17th November 2005, 12:06 PM

oh, like i said, just because the higher up guys in it have started doing unbiblical things doesnt mean the guys that run the actual normal healing rooms in the local towns are crazy. Saying that would be like discrediting Christianity because u see a couple christians not acting like a Christian should. It doesnt mean that Christianity/and God himself are bad, it just means that a couple eggs out of the bunch are bad.

Again, i know the man who runs the local healing rooms in my area to be a strong christian, he goes to my church, and i havent seen him doing anything that isnt biblically based in his practices/principles stuff like that. And part of his spiritual gifts is the gift of healing (yes, i know healing comes from God, but im talking that his is one of his ministry specialties, that God gets glory through him more in that area than maybe some others). And the healing rooms i think are a big part of evangelism, as unsaved people can go there and leave healed, and they will have to recognize (or know in thier hearts) that it was God that healed them, which can help bring them to Christ a lot.

And what does the bible say James 5:14-15 " 14Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord. 15And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise him up. If he has sinned, he will be forgiven."

Of course, im not advocating that some ritual will make a person well, but sometimes healing comes when people join together in prayer. And the healing rooms allow for more than one person to join together in prayer with u, asking God for ur healing.

Healing rooms also move in the prophetic, but i still consider it part of the healing ministry- prophetic healing. This comes when the word of God comes to a healing rooms minister and he gives it to the person it was for. When they hear that word that they really needed, it can bring instant healing. And someone who moves in that gift regularly and is mature in it will be much better at giving them out (in general) and discerning which very well is from God and what things are not (though, yes, it is still up to each individual to check it againt the Word to make sure)- so having healing room ministers who are trained in this area and flow in it like several times a week can help bring forth freedom and healing a lot easier than a novice who God just started to call into moving into that kind of stuff, or even just God wanting to use that person (healing room minister) to bless u. Either way, i consider the healing rooms a great blessing.

Not to mention all the intercession they do/might do in their spare time while waiting for people to pray for. This is also a great benefit to the kingdom of God. Anyway. bl.