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21st March 2003, 10:02 PM
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23rd March 2003, 08:31 AM
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23rd March 2003, 12:01 PM
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Reps: 1,566 (power: 13) | | | In your opinion.... Today at 08:31 AM Julie said this in Post #142 Any verse or chapter in a King James Bible is more authoritative than any set of books that any scholar wrote about them.
In your opinion, what written material is more authoritative than the KJV?
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25th March 2003, 10:07 AM
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Notice how the King James is very clear in telling us WHO was manifest in the flesh: GOD was manifest in the flesh. Now watch the new perversions throw God clear out of the verse:
NIV....... He appeared in a body
NASB... He who was revealed in the flesh
NRSV... He was revealed in flesh
REB...... He was manifested in the flesh
LB......... who came to earth as a man
NWT..... He was made manifest in the flesh
NAB...... He was manifested in the flesh | 
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Reps: 43,893,410,635,797,936 (power: 43,893,410,635,810) | | | Re: SHAME, SHAME, SHAME Today at 10:07 AM Julie said this in Post #146 I Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Notice how the King James is very clear in telling us WHO was manifest in the flesh: GOD was manifest in the flesh. Now watch the new perversions throw God clear out of the verse:
NIV....... He appeared in a body
NASB... He who was revealed in the flesh
NRSV... He was revealed in flesh
REB...... He was manifested in the flesh
LB......... who came to earth as a man
NWT..... He was made manifest in the flesh
NAB...... He was manifested in the flesh
Actually Julie when looking at the Greek text we find that the word "Os" is the word being used. The Greek word "Os" is a relative pronoun that is often translated as: who, which, what, that. So if it is not there in the verse then how are the new translations "throwing God out"? Because a strict literal translation would be, "....mystery of godliness: Who was manifest in the flesh...."
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25th March 2003, 03:49 PM
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Nor are they the most accurate. The most accurate are the smallest body of the Minority Manuscripts. The Neutral Texts.
And they do not agree with the Majority Text. They are older and purer because they were hidden dormant in an isolated region for centuries avoiding the tamperings of the RCC.
Like the one found in the trash can? But, God is great! He promised to preserve every law and teaching. Not preserve everything word for word.
So much for Jesus' promise about not one jot or tittle passing from the Law. And not one teaching is absent or in disagreement between any of the translations.
How do you know? This is a big subject. And one that should not divide the Body of Christ.
I agree with you here. | 
25th March 2003, 04:48 PM
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25th March 2003, 08:43 PM
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Reps: 1,566 (power: 13) | | | Re: SHAME, SHAME, SHAME Today at 10:07 AM Julie said this in Post #146 I Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Notice how the King James is very clear in telling us WHO was manifest in the flesh: GOD was manifest in the flesh. Now watch the new perversions throw God clear out of the verse:
NIV....... He appeared in a body
NASB... He who was revealed in the flesh
NRSV... He was revealed in flesh
REB...... He was manifested in the flesh
LB......... who came to earth as a man
NWT..... He was made manifest in the flesh
NAB...... He was manifested in the flesh The Greek MSS don't support that reading.
The KJV translators mistranslated the texts they were using.
There are plenty more verses that prove the divinity of the Messiah than this one, but don't let your theology influence your clinging to one bible translation over another.
Try the words if Paul, himself in their original language, "Moryo hoo Yeshu' " : "Jesus is The LORD" :-)
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