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Old 21st October 2005, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by godson777
Would you say that the majority of the faith movement is arminian? If not, what are they?
I would say that it is pretty much influenced by Arminianism. For example, Kenneth Hagin Sr. was a great fan of John Wesley's teachings. Furthermore, the Hagin Sr.'s faith teaching has its roots in the Assemblies of God which is a predominantly Arminian denomination (though word has come to me in recent times that many leaders in the denomination are turning into Calvinists). E. W. Kenyon was a Free-Will Baptist, which is primarily Arminian.

The only thing that many Word-Faithers would differ from most Arminians is that a number of Word-Faith teachers are OSAS (Once Saved Always Saved). Hagin was neither OSAS nor was he into the belief that a person lost his salvation every time he sinned. Kenyon, on the other hand, was very much OSAS.

Most Word-Faithers would not want to be classified as either Arminian or Calvinist (and I don't blame them) but for all practical purposes, I would say that the WoF leaned very close to Wesleyan-Arminian.
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Old 22nd October 2005, 12:05 AM
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Old 22nd October 2005, 01:36 AM
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Hi Victory & Godson,
[quote=victoryword]The only thing that many Word-Faithers would differ from most Arminians is that a number of Word-Faith teachers are OSAS (Once Saved Always Saved). QUOTE]

Thats interesting. I didnt realize that the majority was osas. I would not have even guessed it. I do know that Bob Yandian is osas. By the way, in my opinion, he has the most clear & concise teaching on JDS.

I've heard Pastor Robb Thompson say that he is neither Arminian or Calvinist, because, "Its not how you begin a race, but how you finish it that matters."
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Question for you Victory,

I took this online test "How pentecostal are you?"

The results came back that I was 1oo% 'evangelical-holiness/wesleyan' & only 50% charismatic. I realize that the results of these tests depend on the depth of understanding of each branch of christianity the one righting the test has.
I do know that Wesley stressed holiness, evangelism & was an Arminian, but the 50% charismatic surprised me. What do you make of it? From my understanding WOF is nothing different than charismatic except WOF emphasis the power of confession & prosperity.
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Old 22nd October 2005, 02:26 AM
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What web-site is the test on?
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Go to the pentecostal section and find thread "How Pentecostal are you?"Then go to the first post. There is a link.
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I got similar results to you PastorJ!

I was 82% evangelical-holiness wesleyan
and 79% pentecostal/charistmatic
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Apparently I am more methodist than I am charistmatic/pentecostal!?

What's the deal with that?
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Hi Godson,
First of all The writer of the test has his own ideas of what it means to be Charismatic (probably is critical). And as far as being methodist goes, if John Wesley was alive today, he probably wouldnt be a methodist, even though he was its founder. The Methodist church in general isnt the same as it originally was. He'd roll over in his grave if he saw the formalism & traditions of men that have taken over.
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Originally Posted by PastorJ
Hi Godson,
First of all The writer of the test has his own ideas of what it means to be Charismatic (probably is critical). And as far as being methodist goes, if John Wesley was alive today, he probably wouldnt be a methodist, even though he was its founder. The Methodist church in general isnt the same as it originally was. He'd roll over in his grave if he saw the formalism & traditions of men that have taken over.
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Many branches are also embracing LIBERAL THEOLOGY of the Bishop Spong type.
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