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Selling stuff in church

Is it ok to sell items in church? Does John 2:16 forbid the sale of goods in or by the church?
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I think this trampling would be symbolic and not a portrayal of something that really happened, right? That would be disturbing, like if they wrote an icon of St. Nicholas punching Arius in the first ecumenical council. Who wants to see Santa throw a punch?
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There's no Biblical admonition against selling things in church.

Some ministries, such as Key Life, sell some items to defray the cost of giving so many other things away for free.

The point behind the incident in John isn't that Jesus is condemning selling things in church, but what is being sold and how it is being sold.

The incident occurred while pilgrims were coming to the temple, often from hundreds of miles away.

Because they were traveling, they did not always have access to the sacrificial animals and sometimes had to buy them at the temple.

This was a common and accepted practice. However, these particular vendors were taking advantage of the desire of the pilgrims to keep the law.

Because they knew that the pilgrims needed these animals to fulfill their religious obligations, they were charging outrageous prices for them and selling them unacceptable sacrifices.

This is what Jesus was condemning.

Now, while it's not wrong for us to sell things in church today, we do need to be careful that we don't sell them in the same spirit.
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Originally Posted by 12volt_man
There's no Biblical admonition against selling things in church.

Some ministries, such as Key Life, sell some items to defray the cost of giving so many other things away for free.

The point behind the incident in John isn't that Jesus is condemning selling things in church, but what is being sold and how it is being sold.

The incident occurred while pilgrims were coming to the temple, often from hundreds of miles away.

Because they were traveling, they did not always have access to the sacrificial animals and sometimes had to buy them at the temple.

This was a common and accepted practice. However, these particular vendors were taking advantage of the desire of the pilgrims to keep the law.

Because they knew that the pilgrims needed these animals to fulfill their religious obligations, they were charging outrageous prices for them and selling them unacceptable sacrifices.

This is what Jesus was condemning.

Now, while it's not wrong for us to sell things in church today, we do need to be careful that we don't sell them in the same spirit.
To add to an already good explanation.
In Deut.14 they are told to keep back part of thier tithes to finance trips to Jerusalem in keeping the required Holy Days. So they would be spending the money that is God's portion to do this. Not a problem because it was a commandment. However, to charge usury for this is a major problem. They were not robbing their fellow Jews, but God.
That would give a deeper punch to the part where Jesus says that you have made the house a house of robbers and thieves.

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Originally Posted by e=mv^2
Is it ok to sell items in church? Does John 2:16 forbid the sale of goods in or by the church?

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I think this trampling would be symbolic and not a portrayal of something that really happened, right? That would be disturbing, like if they wrote an icon of St. Nicholas punching Arius in the first ecumenical council. Who wants to see Santa throw a punch?
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A Christian Church is strictly a house of worship and prayer.
A place of Holy celebration and sanctification.
Any other activity held within its confines is a desecration of a Christian church.
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Originally Posted by George_4JC
A Christian Church is strictly a house of worship and prayer.
A place of Holy celebration and sanctification.
Any other activity held within its confines is a desecration of a Christian church.
I agrea bout that.God sy that he give us what we need and Jesus explain when he said (I don`t remember the verses) don`t God give the birds food andflowers what the need.We are more presure to Him then are....
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I think it's a matter of what the money is used for... If it's just to the church elders for their own gain, then it's wrong. But if the money is to go towards missions and things like that, then I think it's okay... That and it depends on what the Church is selling... like, Christian CDs and veggie tales, that sort of thing is alright... but you know, anything that the Lord would find displeasing should NEVER be sold.
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Originally Posted by George_4JC
A Christian Church is strictly a house of worship and prayer.
A place of Holy celebration and sanctification.
Any other activity held within its confines is a desecration of a Christian church.
Say's who? Everything remotely resembling a church service in the NT, including the last supper itself, occurs in a building intended and used for some other purpose. So, having decided it's more convenient to have a purpose built building to worship in, why would you decide that it couldn't be used for some other purpose as well, so long as that purpose is not contrary to Christ's purposes?
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