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Reps: 67,504,440,950,991,168 (power: 67,504,440,951,017) | | Originally posted by Susan
I think the phenomena are demonic, not physiological.
You think meditation is demonic?
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Touche.
And yes, I do. 
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Reps: 1,439 (power: 24) | | "Those effects can include facial tics, insomnia, spacing out, and even psychotic breakdowns. Dr. Margaret Singer, clinical psychologist emeritus at Berkeley, with research partner Dr. Janja Lalich, collected case histories from 70 clients seeking treatment for problems that began during meditation practice. Their research presents several examples of these symptoms and notes that prior to meditating, none of the patients had individual or family histories of mental disorders. . ."
Doesn't this sound like the profile of the Biblical demoniacs? 
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1st September 2002, 03:45 AM
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Sounds like a certain man of Gadarene. . .
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1st September 2002, 03:49 AM
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Reps: 67,504,440,950,991,168 (power: 67,504,440,951,017) | | Originally posted by Susan "Those effects can include facial tics, insomnia, spacing out, and even psychotic breakdowns. Dr. Margaret Singer, clinical psychologist emeritus at Berkeley, with research partner Dr. Janja Lalich, collected case histories from 70 clients seeking treatment for problems that began during meditation practice. Their research presents several examples of these symptoms and notes that prior to meditating, none of the patients had individual or family histories of mental disorders. . ."
Doesn't this sound like the profile of the Biblical demoniacs?
No, it sounds like these people have mental health problems.
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1st September 2002, 04:03 AM
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Most mental illness has some precdent. Demonic posession, meanwhile, is most often sudden.
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1st September 2002, 04:15 AM
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Originally posted by Susan
Most mental illness has some precdent. Demonic posession, meanwhile, is most often sudden.
I suspect that being under the influence of fairies, having one's house infested by poltergeists, and the horrors of vampiric hypnosis are similarily sudden. In fact, I would say that they're exactly the same in that these "phenomena" cannot be falsified. This is why science does not accept supernatural explanations. | | |
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