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Originally Posted by Jimmy West
A believer, who is not Born Again, can be possessed by a demon or demons.
Sorry to be blunt, but how can a believer not be born again?
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Originally Posted by GodismyRefuge
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Would love to know your thoughts on this
Yes, Christians can very much be demonized. As a matter of fact, it would seem that Christians are under heavier spiritual attack than non believers. Just read any of Derek Prince's books on the subject or Neil Anderson's books (Bondage Breaker is a good one). Their ministries involve getting demons out of Christians (although they both take different approaches.)

My mom has been delievered from demons as well as a couple of other Christian believers I know (who all speak in tongues and are definitly saved).

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Originally Posted by Lpe04
How can a believer not be born again?
That's what I'm wondering

It's funny, the bible clearly says that the evil one will not touch His children and yet people still insist on believing that a child of God can be demonised!
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I have read that Mother Theresa became possessed by demons. Its been argued that demons pursue the righteous and pure in heart more than anyone else.
hmmm.... I watched ewtn and seen a program about padre pio restled with demons
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I believe that Paul was refering to a demon tormenting him in 2 Cor. 12:7

2 Cor. 12:7: To keep me from becoming conceited because of these surpassingly great revelations, there was given me a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me.
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doesn't mean he was possessed or demonised. The Devil can torment anyone but he can't touch them.
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I think the problem comes with people confusing the words "demonized" and "possessed". As Derek Prince points out in his ministry, no one is really "demonized" or "possesed", as in this would symbolize complete control by the adversary. Christians can have evil spirits in them, and this does not mean they are "possesed", but rather influenced. Odds are that you know someone (and probably more than one person) who is a Christian and has at least one evil spirit in them. One of my very close believer friend, who has been walking with God for a very long time now, was delievered from an evil spirit randomly one day when God told him that he needed to forgive a certain person. I can think of many other examples too. Derek Prince's ministry (and Neil Anderson's too) are based on delivering Christians from evil spirits, so it is very much possible. I used to know of a video online of a pastor who would cast demons out of members of his church, and other Christians who would come to see him, but I can't find it anymore or I would post the link for you.

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I agree that they can be influence but I do not agree that they have an evil spirit IN THEM. The reason being is simply because light and dark do not mix. The Holy Spirit dwells in the believer - an evil spirit cannot dwell where the holy Spirit is.
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Originally Posted by Lpe04
I think the problem comes with people confusing the words "demonized" and "possessed". As Derek Prince points out in his ministry, no one is really "demonized" or "possesed", as in this would symbolize complete control by the adversary. Christians can have evil spirits in them, and this does not mean they are "possesed", but rather influenced. Odds are that you know someone (and probably more than one person) who is a Christian and has at least one evil spirit in them. One of my very close believer friend, who has been walking with God for a very long time now, was delievered from an evil spirit randomly one day when God told him that he needed to forgive a certain person. I can think of many other examples too. Derek Prince's ministry (and Neil Anderson's too) are based on delivering Christians from evil spirits, so it is very much possible. I used to know of a video online of a pastor who would cast demons out of members of his church, and other Christians who would come to see him, but I can't find it anymore or I would post the link for you.

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If a person has a Demon in his body, that Demon is possessing that man's body and that man is possessed. Everyday demonic influence comes from outside the body. I witenssed a young man who was possessed. I was at a healing service of Billy Burke. A yound man, who still had his Pep Boys uniform on, came in off of the street to the service. Billy saw him and walked over to him and said: "You don't look like you belong here.". The young man said that he was walking home from work and something told him to come into the sanctuary. Billy asked him if he wanted to be saved and he said "yes". Billy them lead him in a Sinners Prayer and laid his hands on him. The young man immediately went down and started writhing on the floor. Billy knew something was wrong, for he shouted: "COME OUT OF HIM IN THE NAME OF JESUS". Two demons came out of his mouth and each time a demon came out, the men let out a scream. When the young man stood up, he looked different. There was a peaceful, tranquil look on his face. The entire congregation let out a cheer and welcomed him into their outstretched arms. It was a most incredible experience.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy West
If a person has a Demon in his body, that Demon is possessing that man's body and that man is possessed. Everyday demonic influence comes from outside the body. I witenssed a young man who was possessed. I was at a healing service of Billy Burke. A yound man, who still had his Pep Boys uniform on, came in off of the street to the service. Billy saw him and walked over to him and said: "You don't look like you belong here.". The young man said that he was walking home from work and something told him to come into the sanctuary. Billy asked him if he wanted to be saved and he said "yes". Billy them lead him in a Sinners Prayer and laid his hands on him. The young man immediately went down and started writhing on the floor. Billy knew something was wrong, for he shouted: "COME OUT OF HIM IN THE NAME OF JESUS". Two demons came out of his mouth and each time a demon came out, the men let out a scream. When the young man stood up, he looked different. There was a peaceful, tranquil look on his face. The entire congregation let out a cheer and welcomed him into their outstretched arms. It was a most incredible experience.
Praise the Lord! A lot of times He will use healings and casting out of demons for those first coming to Christ. Yet, this still does not negate the fact that born again Christians can have evil spirit(s) in them. I have graciously received revelation from the Lord of evil spirits in born again believers before, and I have at times seen the spirits operating and influencing the person (and no, it's not like the "Exorcist" movie). One time I was talking with someone, and the Lord graciously revealed to me that her son had a spirit(s), and we both saw the spirit(s) operating in him that night (and yes he was born again).
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