My friend is posessed....what do I do?

Rising_Suns · #1 21st August 2002, 06:51 PM

MODS: Please don't tag this thread to my previous thread about posession. This is critical and I need as much help as possible.

 

In a previous thread, I mentioned how my friend could be posessed, but I wasn't really sure. Well something happened again a couple weeks ago that I just found out about, and like usual, she doesn't remember a thing. Nothing.

Anyway, some people on the previous thread kinda shaded the possiblity of posession and attributed it more to mental illness.

I disagree with all of you. She is showing classic signs of demonic posession, and NOT schizphrenia or anything of the sorts:

-She condemned God (generally very spiritual and close to God)

-She had rational conversations with others and seemed more inllegent than normal.

-complete memory loss of all events
-She never admitted to being posessed while posessed

-She showed signs of extreme strength
-violent behaivoir during this (she is not a violent person at all)
-Threatening to kill herself
-sexual imorrality

Listen guys,
I can't risk taking a gamble here on whether or not she is in fact posessed. What I need to know from you is how do I go about getting rid of her demon/demons? Can I do this myself? Do I need a priest? a bishop? I am Catholic, but she is not. Does that pose a conflict?

I don't want opinions here. I need facts. what do I do?

Thanks and God bless.

 

Reformationist · #2 21st August 2002, 07:10 PM

Rising Suns, is your friend saved?

  A saved person cannot be possessed.  They can certainly be swayed but not possessed.

1 Corinthians 3:16
Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?

Matthew 12:25
Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand.

What do you do?  You pray that God will heal her.  And no, you don't need to be a priest.

God bless.

jukesk9 · #3 21st August 2002, 07:44 PM

Take her to a priest for prayer. Seriously. He may bless her or annoint her. That would be my first stop, my parish priest.

Rising_Suns · #4 21st August 2002, 11:40 PM

Reformationist,
I don't see how that particular scripture backs up your statement. Even if a person is saved, they can still fall away from the Lord. And if they can still fall away from the Lord, they can be even more suceptible to demonic obsession, which can lead to demonic posession. And further still, if a particular person poses a great threat to evil, then Satan will concentrate more of his forces on that person in an attempt to bring them away from the Lord and prevent them from doing God's will. I believe this is exactly what happened here in this case. I know Catherine has a very beautiful gift in her soul, one so powerfull that Satan is trying is hardest to bring her back to the way she used to be.

Tonight, I was doing some research into exorcisms, and I sort of did one on Catherine, because, well I just felt God wanted me to. She said she was getting a hot flash or something. That's when God told me to do it, so I did. I commanded any evil demons out of Catheirne, in my own words. Then I read the exorcism prayer to Catherine, slowly, imaging in my mind the evil leaving her body, letting go of her and never coming back.

The strangest thing happened after that. It was like I was touching heaven. I felt a rush through my body of pure exctacy. I was laying on the couch and I couldn't move for about 30 minutes. All I could do was lay there, cry, smile, and look up to God in wonder and amazement. i never felt anything like that before in my life.

All this happened about an hour ago, and I still feel it. It's almost like God did what He wanted to do through me, and thanked me for allowing Him to use me to help my friend. I'm simply speechless.

 

God is beautiful.

Patty · #5 22nd August 2002, 12:46 AM

Originally posted by Rising_Suns
MODS: Please don't tag this thread to my previous thread about posession. This is critical and I need as much help as possible.

 

In a previous thread, I mentioned how my friend could be posessed, but I wasn't really sure. Well something happened again a couple weeks ago that I just found out about, and like usual, she doesn't remember a thing. Nothing.

Anyway, some people on the previous thread kinda shaded the possiblity of posession and attributed it more to mental illness.

I disagree with all of you. She is showing classic signs of demonic posession, and NOT schizphrenia or anything of the sorts:

-She condemned God (generally very spiritual and close to God)

-She had rational conversations with others and seemed more inllegent than normal.

-complete memory loss of all events
-She never admitted to being posessed while posessed

-She showed signs of extreme strength
-violent behaivoir during this (she is not a violent person at all)
-Threatening to kill herself
-sexual imorrality

Listen guys,
I can't risk taking a gamble here on whether or not she is in fact posessed. What I need to know from you is how do I go about getting rid of her demon/demons? Can I do this myself? Do I need a priest? a bishop? I am Catholic, but she is not. Does that pose a conflict?

I don't want opinions here. I need facts. what do I do?

Thanks and God bless.

 

Hey Rising Suns,

I looked into exorcism years ago.  I discovered something amazing.

Putting it in its simplest terms, Exorcism is the process of getting in touch with one's own inner truth.  Through prayer, examination of conscience, and heartfelt, sincere truthfulness, one speaks to God in the exorcism procedure, and tells God - and one's own self!! - what's happening inside one's own heart.

That's spiritually healing and cleansing.

Also, a person who is thus distressed would be wise to calm himself, take each step one at a time, slowly.  Slow down, quiet oneself, and think, think, think before doing anything.  This helps to get one in touch with personal accountability and conscience with each thing one does.

Focus on God.  When in distress, say the Lord's Prayer.  It really helps.  Turn to God and place yourself in His Good Hands.  God is our Father and will care for us.

The most important thing to do is to be calm and focus on God.

I've seen the above method work.  Several times. I hope this helps.

Patty

Rising_Suns · #6 22nd August 2002, 01:16 AM

patty, that's exactly what i did. I handed it all over to God's will and just let Him use me. I did not say or did anything before asking God. I listened, observed, and was very patient and calm. I felt God work through me. And thus I feel what I did was the right thing to do

Patty · #7 22nd August 2002, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by Rising_Suns
patty, that's exactly what i did. I handed it all over to God's will and just let Him use me. I did not say or did anything before asking God. I listened, observed, and was very patient and calm. I felt God work through me. And thus I feel what I did was the right thing to do

Hey Rising Suns,

That's real exorcism.

I bought a book and read several stories about people who were 'possessed' and that's exactly what the Christian minister did.

I simply experimented with the exercises and came up with that summary I outlined, same stuff you did.  I felt such a beautiful sensation of peace flow through me.

Wonderful, isn't it?  And, it all comes down to being truthful with oneself and God, and taking things SLOOOOW, one step at a time, before doing anything.

Yep, I read what you had done.  Just figured I'd summarize, from my experience and show support for what you did that way.

Good for you.

 

Patty

psycmajor · #8 22nd August 2002, 02:52 AM

Get a group of strong Christians to physically surround her and pray for hours. They should tell the demon to get out of her body, it is not welcome. In Jesus' name.

psycmajor · #9 22nd August 2002, 02:54 AM

Get a group of strong Christians to physically surround her and pray for hours. They should tell the demon to get out of her body, it is not welcome. In Jesus' name.

My pastor has done this before. He fasts for a week first. A bunch of other pastors should do the same, and confront the demon within the person. They must be strong in the Lord.

Reformationist · #10 22nd August 2002, 03:37 AM

Originally posted by Rising_Suns
Even if a person is saved, they can still fall away from the Lord. And if they can still fall away from the Lord, they can be even more suceptible to demonic obsession, which can lead to demonic posession.

Sorry...I don't believe a person can lose their salvation.  I wasn't aware that you believed that.

And further still, if a particular person poses a great threat to evil, then Satan will concentrate more of his forces on that person in an attempt to bring them away from the Lord and prevent them from doing God's will.

You're making the mistake of thinking that satan has the power to do something outside of the Will of God.  Satan only has that power that was given him "for a season" by God.  It's a biblically errant viewpoint to pose God and satan as equally powerful but opposed enemies.  Satan is a created being, and as such can only do that which the Lord allows him to do.

All this happened about an hour ago, and I still feel it. It's almost like God did what He wanted to do through me, and thanked me for allowing Him to use me to help my friend. I'm simply speechless.

God thanked you for allowing Him to use you to help your friend?!!

Rising Suns, a couple of things and then I'll bow out of this.  First, God's Will is not in subjegation to yours.  He is sovereign, not you.  He doesn't thank you for anything.  Second, you don't "allow" Him to do anything, He does it according to His Will, not yours.  Lastly, you didn't help your friend, God did.

Sorry man, I know this isn't a debate forum but I gotta tell you, you put way to much emphasis on your glory and not nearly enough on God.

You take it easy bro.

God bless.