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24th July 2005, 07:42 AM
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Reps: 6,155,096,027,645,786 (power: 6,155,096,027,659) | | Originally Posted by johnsnat I don't want to get into a big arguement here, but there really isn't any hard evidence for either theory.
Allele frequencies DO change over time
Observed and documented
You cant get much more evidence than first hand observation.
God going "Poof, new animal" is another matter entirely. Has anyone seen a new animal appear from magic?
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24th July 2005, 10:27 AM
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Reps: 1,813 (power: 11) | | Originally Posted by johnsnat Don't worry, I am. But even the most educated cannot tell me there are no missing pieces to either theory.
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24th July 2005, 11:24 AM
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Reps: 132 (power: 0) | | | Criticism of evolutionary theory from creationists is usually full of irony and/or projection. They are willing to accept bogus "evidence" for creation and yet are highly skeptical of actual evidence with some extrapolation for ToE. | 
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Reps: 423 (power: 0) | | To be honest, you've all been duped . Evolution is the evidence for a creator, ha! Disprove creationism now! lol
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Reps: 12,098,800,393,032 (power: 12,098,800,412) | | Originally Posted by ChrisS To be honest, you've all been duped . Evolution is the evidence for a creator, ha! Disprove creationism now! lol
This statement is unnecessary, as the simple deistic belief that the creation is evidence for the creator is sufficient. Of course, such a belief cannot be disproved, but a literal reading of Genesis can. | 
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Reps: 423 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by nvxplorer This statement is unnecessary, as the simple deistic belief that the creation is evidence for the creator is sufficient. Of course, such a belief cannot be disproved, but a literal reading of Genesis can. Yeah I tried to leave a hint of sarcasm in there, but it appears I failed miserably . Though it is a good point.
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24th July 2005, 12:28 PM
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Reps: 12,098,800,393,032 (power: 12,098,800,412) | | Originally Posted by ChrisS Yeah I tried to leave a hint of sarcasm in there, but it appears I failed miserably . Though it is a good point.
The sarcasm was apparent. You didn't fail. | 
24th July 2005, 12:31 PM
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Reps: 423 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by nvxplorer The sarcasm was apparent. You didn't fail. Though I do agree with the point I made, it was mainly sarcasm. Good to know I didn't fail, this time .
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Reps: 6,155 (power: 17) | | Originally Posted by LordoftheScythe Criticism of evolutionary theory from creationists is usually full of irony and/or projection. They are willing to accept bogus "evidence" for creation and yet are highly skeptical of actual evidence with some extrapolation for ToE.
Not to mention the fact that they will also accept evolution after the "flood". The "within kinds" thing always boggles my mind, as well as the geological factors they'll accept for explaining the re-distribution of animals across the earth. | 
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Reps: 196 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by BeamMeUpScotty Not to mention the fact that they will also accept evolution after the "flood". The "within kinds" thing always boggles my mind, as well as the geological factors they'll accept for explaining the re-distribution of animals across the earth.
Not to get off-topic, but if the earth's rotation is slowing down, then that means that it used to be going faster. And if we back this up a long time, say, millions of years, then we are going to have a little wind problem. The rotation of the earth causes the circulation of the upper atmosphere, which has a direct effect on the lower atmosphere wind patterns. If the earth was rotating a whole lot faster, then, would not the winds be too strong for life to "evolve"?
(P.S. I don't accept evolution anytime.)
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