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21st July 2005, 02:35 PM
| | | Originally Posted by nvxplorer So what? Are we not allowed to express contempt, if indeed that is the intent? Is your faith weakened by others' contempt for it?
This is a free country and you can do what you want. Evolutionist disgracing a symbol that is sacred to Christians would be the same as someone peeing on a Koran to the Muslims.
No my faith is not weakend. My resolve is to continue my healing and worship of God so that one day I can be in his presence in Heaven.
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21st July 2005, 02:37 PM
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Because vandalizing someones car is a great way to witness. |
21st July 2005, 02:39 PM
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Reps: 140 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by cameronw Evolutionist disgracing a symbol that is sacred to Christians would be the same as someone peeing on a Koran to the Muslims.
I disagree.
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21st July 2005, 02:41 PM
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Reps: 12,098,800,393,032 (power: 12,098,800,411) | | Originally Posted by cameronw This is a free country and you can do what you want. Evolutionist disgracing a symbol that is sacred to Christians would be the same as someone peeing on a Koran to the Muslims.
Wouldn't peeing on a Bible be the same as peeing on a Koran? No my faith is not weakend. My resolve is to continue my healing and worship of God so that one day I can be in his presence in Heaven.
Well, it sure seems to upset you. Just as an individual who can't take criticism is lacking self-confidence/esteem, someone who can't handle criticism of their faith seems to lack strong faith. |
21st July 2005, 02:45 PM
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Reps: 692,329,274,203,046 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by cameronw Evolutionist disgracing a symbol that is sacred to Christians would be the same as someone peeing on a Koran to the Muslims.
I have a Darwin fish on my car. Why? I didn't do it to disgrace anyone or anything. I did it in response to creationists' repeated attempts to disgrace science education by infusing creationist garbage into the public school science curriculum or by watering down how evolution is taught.
If my Darwin fish ticks you off and you're one of those creationists mentioned above, good. It's working. |
21st July 2005, 04:53 PM
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Reps: 50,399,562,121,177,224 (power: 50,399,562,121,189) | | Originally Posted by nvxplorer Wouldn't peeing on a Bible be the same as peeing on a Koran?...
As I understand it, no. To Muslims, the Koran is Allah incarnate, the analogous Christian phrase would be "the Word made text".
To Christians, the actual book itself is just a book. A more accurate simile would be desecrating a Host in the Catholic Church.
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As a result of this, many (of) his disciples returned to their former way of life and no longer accompanied him...
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21st July 2005, 05:01 PM
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Reps: 6,056 (power: 18) | | Originally Posted by GoSeminoles! I have a Darwin fish on my car. Why? I didn't do it to disgrace anyone or anything. I did it in response to creationists' repeated attempts to disgrace science education by infusing creationist garbage into the public school science curriculum or by watering down how evolution is taught.
If my Darwin fish ticks you off and you're one of those creationists mentioned above, good. It's working.
Yes, it seems to me that the only people who consider it an insult to their faith are the very creationists for whom it is intended.
EDIT: Not to mention, that's the first time I've heard the Ichthys called "sacred." |
21st July 2005, 05:17 PM
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Reps: 20 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Wizzletinks While my car was parked at school today, somebody ripped off my Darwin fish! Not only that, but I found a "Jesus Saves!!!" flyer under my wiper! I can't be positive that it was the same idiot(s) responsible for both incidents, but that's the direction I'm leaning towards. What kind of jerkwad goes and vandalizes somebody's car!? I mean, the missing paint will be expensive to replace! There is no emoticon to express the severity of my anger!
IOW, for someone to alter your car with the exact opposite of what you believe is the truth rightfully makes you boil with anger.
Now you know how God feels as Darwinists did the exact same to Him: assert science falsifies sudden creation/Him.
Then God goes on to say Darwinism, that is the belief living things originate from other living things and not ultimately from God is a penalty from Him for denying Him Creator status. (Romans 1:18-25) Ernst Mayr Professor of Zoology at Harvard University:
"There is indeed one belief that all true original Darwinians held in
common, and that was their rejection of creationism, their rejection of
special creation. This was the flag around which they assembled and
under which they marched. When Hull claimed that "the Darwinians did
not totally agree with each other, even over essentials", he
overlooked one essential on which all these Darwinians agreed. Nothing
was more essential for them than to decide whether evolution is a
natural phenomenon or something controlled by God. The conviction that
the diversity of the natural world was the result of natural processes
and not the work of God was the idea that brought all the so-called
Darwinians together in spite of their disagreements on other of
Darwin's theories." One Long Argument (1991) p.99 |
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Reps: 2,393 (power: 14) | | Originally Posted by Ed Vidence IOW, for someone to alter your car with the exact opposite of what you believe is the truth rightfully makes you boil with anger.
Now you know how God feels as Darwinists did the exact same to Him: assert science falsifies sudden creation/Him.
Then God goes on to say Darwinism, that is the belief living things originate from other living things and not ultimately from God is a penalty from Him for denying Him Creator status. (Romans 1:18-25
Sorry , Evolution does NOT equal atheism. So I see you claim to know how God feels, well, I guess we're just gonna have to take your word for it. |
21st July 2005, 05:43 PM
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Reps: 20 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Grengor Sorry , Evolution does NOT equal atheism. So I see you claim to know how God feels, well, I guess we're just gonna have to take your word for it.
Why did you snip the quote below ?
Could it be that it supports the obvious ? Ernst Mayr Professor of Zoology at Harvard University:
"There is indeed one belief that all true original Darwinians held in
common, and that was their rejection of creationism, their rejection of
special creation. This was the flag around which they assembled and
under which they marched. When Hull claimed that "the Darwinians did
not totally agree with each other, even over essentials", he
overlooked one essential on which all these Darwinians agreed. Nothing
was more essential for them than to decide whether evolution is a
natural phenomenon or something controlled by God. The conviction that
the diversity of the natural world was the result of natural processes
and not the work of God was the idea that brought all the so-called
Darwinians together in spite of their disagreements on other of
Darwin's theories." One Long Argument (1991) p.99 | | |
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