Ouija Boards

Roark · #21 21st July 2005, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by Goldfishgal

Uh oh,

Originally Posted by Goldfishgal

I got invited to this girls house for a sleepover and I think she's gonna bring out the board. What do I do if that happens??

For Pete's sake.. DO IT BLINDFOLDED. Have someone who’s honest write down what the board says to you. It will show you that this silly piece of cardboard and plastic CANNOT summon spirits and nonsense.

SoulFly51 · #22 22nd July 2005, 03:41 AM

Originally Posted by Roark

How does the Ouija board work? New-Agey folks think you get messages from spirits or ghosts or Invisible Pink Unicorns or something. Yeah, sure. Here's the real explanation, from the Skeptic's Dictionary (http://skepdic.com/ouija.html): "those using the board either consciously or unconsciously select what is read." If you want to prove it to yourself, follow the advice of that same site: "simply try it blindfolded for some time, having an innocent bystander take notes on what letters are selected. Usually, the result will be unintelligible nonsense."

Uh-huh. What if no one is touching it and it is giving you answers.

I believe in God and His angels, and I believe in Satan and his angels. Both are real, both are active, and God isn't the one speaking through Quija boards.

Marut · #23 22nd July 2005, 03:50 AM

Originally Posted by WesWoodell

I believe in God and His angels, and I believe in Satan and his angels. Both are real, both are active, and God isn't the one speaking through Quija boards.

Is it impossible that God is speaking through the Ouija Board rather than Satan? If so, why? It does say in the Bible that God forbids fortune-tellers, but why would God not use Ouija Boards to spread His word? A friend of mine once asked it if God was real and He was Jesus. It literally flew to "Yes" and now she is a Born-Again Christian (not nessessarily just for that reason, but I know it helped) . I don't see how that is Satanic or occultic.

Radagast · #24 22nd July 2005, 03:52 AM

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Reminder: only Christians may answer questions here.

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silkamilkamonico · #25 22nd July 2005, 04:27 AM

Originally Posted by Roark

For Pete's sake.. DO IT BLINDFOLDED. Have someone who’s honest write down what the board says to you. It will show you that this silly piece of cardboard and plastic CANNOT summon spirits and nonsense.

It's not soo much that they are unable to do it, it's the simple fact that God specifically states in the Bible that we are not allowed to consult with the dead, or evil evil will be driven out before us!

Did you guys know that the Exorcist was a book written off a true story. And the story states that the little boy(boy instead of girl) became possessed after his aunt died, whom the aunt and little boy would summon the dead, to talk to spirits. I see that as God punishing the boy for his sin.

Duet 18:10...[bible]No one shall be found among you who makes a son or daughter pass through fire, or who practices divination, or is a soothsayer, or an augor, or a sorcerer, or one who cast spells, or who consults ghosts or spirits, or who seeks oracles from the dead. For whomever does these things is abhorrent to the lord:it is because of such practices that the Lord your God is driven them before you.[/bible]

I just think some things in life aren't to be played around with, I don't want some evil spirits messintg around with me when I'm home alone at 11pm, so Ijust won't go there.

rebel_for_christ07 · #26 22nd July 2005, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by Goldfishgal

Someone I know made a thread on another forum and said she'd do ouijas for people and someone said to never touch them and she doesn't think they are bad.

So could someone give me some info on why they are bad so I can show her? She says shes a Christian but she used tarot cards and junk like that.

I just want to back up people on it and show everyone who thinks its okay that its really...not...

Thank you.
~Goldie!~

anything where u take the power of God into ur own hands is bad... cus u never control the spirits they ALWAYS control u. no matter what u could never control them... by witchcraft u practically throw the door open for satan to come in... heck ur practically serving him tea....

anyway it is wrong because God said witchcraft is wrong... plain and simple.

i will pray for u

-In christ-
Lexi

Lostandconfused · #27 22nd July 2005, 11:18 AM

I have read this thread and I realize that christians only should answer. I am new here, so forgive me for overstepping. I think that the pagan view might be of some actual help.

I have been warned against useing the board by both christians and witches. DOes that tell you something? When even the pagans won't touch it? For the exact same reasons that have been pointed out by the christians on this board. You are playing with fire. It is NOT a game. It truely draws up spirits that are not too nice and once you have let them in, it is almost impossible to get rid of them.

Roark · #28 22nd July 2005, 12:20 PM

Mods- I am adding insightful information to this question. I am not belittling anyone or trolling. It would be a SHAME if this were deleted.

The following was written by Larry Barrieau

Ouija in the Classroom

"I teach seventh grade earth science in a rural school in northern Massachusetts. An important part of understanding science as a process, and not just a body of knowledge, is understanding the scientific method. So, for the past decade I have been introducing the scientific method in a rather unique way: I use the paranormal.

For the first few weeks of every school year, my class uses subjects of the paranormal to investigate the scientific method. We discuss UFOs, ghosts, Big Foot, the Loch Ness monster, Ouija, psychics, dowsing, the Bermuda Triangle, crop circles, and many other old favorites.

I begin the discussion of each topic by having the students tell what they know, or think they know, about the phenomenon. They usually relate anecdotes about UFOs or ghosts or what they have learned on television ("Alien Autopsy," Nostradamus, "Unsolved Mysteries," etc.).

After looking at the quality of evidence for belief in the phenomenon, we shift to the skeptical viewpoint. For this, I use my complete set of back issues of Skeptical Inquirer and several titles published by Prometheus Books. The students can see that the evidence for the phenomenon dissipates rapidly when held up to a skeptical investigation. They also come to understand some of the many reasons why people make such claims; from honest mistakes to outright fraud.

Finally, we do a little experiment of our own with a Ouija board.

The Ouija Experiment

Many kids have played with Ouija boards, especially at sleepovers. In class, my students tell of their experiences, and many of them believe that something paranormal did happen.

To begin the experiment, I ask what the students believe was "paranormal" about their experiences. They say such things as, "The indicator moved by itself; we didn't push it," or, "There are spirits who know the answers to all questions, and it is they who move the indicator through our fingers."

I then ask the two students who appear to be the most fervent believers to carry out the experiment. I explain that the question asked to the Ouija board will be one to which only I know the answer. (It's usually something like, "Where was Mr. Barrieau's maternal grandmother born?") An envelope with the correct answer inside is then shown to the class and kept in my pocket.

To get the class to take this seriously, I announce that if the Ouija board answers the question precisely, I will give everyone in class an A for the year and they won't have to come to class again. This definitely gets their attention!

The two students selected to operate the Ouija board then sit opposite each other. Two other students hold a large piece of oak tag under the operators' chins so that the operators can't see their own laps. I then place the Ouija board (one that a student has brought in and "works") on their laps so that the orientation of the board is unknown to the operators. The indicator is put on the board and the students place their fingers on it. Another student is assigned to record where the indicator stops each time the operators say that it has. This recorder positions himself or herself to see the board while the operators cannot.

My question is given to one of the operators who asks it to the Ouija board. When the operators are satisfied that the answer has been given, the recorder writes the information on a piece of paper. Then I hand the envelope to the recorder, who opens it and writes my answer on the chalkboard. The recorder then writes the operators' answer next to mine. A groan goes up after the first couple of letters are written. (They really wanted that A.)

Of course the Ouija has never even produced a word, much less an accurate answer. Protests are immediate: "It wasn't dark!" "We didn't have a candle!" "We weren't in a circle!" This is when I introduce the idea of eliminating variables and invite them to set up their own experiments at home doing just that.

I realize that I am not a scientist and that this experiment has holes in it big enough for James Randi to levitate through. But with this age group, it seems to work very well.

As we discuss other paranormal subjects, I ask the students to think of ways they might test the claims. Many good answers surface, and discussion on how to eliminate variables gets lively. When we finish this section, I ask the students to make posters to illustrate the phrase Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. The poster voted the best is placed in a prominent spot on the wall for the rest of the year.

So, after this paranormal unit do all of my students become skeptics? Yeah, right. But some do become skeptical about some of the topics. And at least the seed has been planted in others, and we can only hope for future germination."

Lostandconfused · #29 22nd July 2005, 12:36 PM

:shrugs:

Not everything can be explained away by science. To the point where it is almost imppossible to state facts anymore. Science is always changing.

I know from personal experience that the spiritual world exists. I have been on both sides of the coin. From christian to pagan to confused.

koban4max · #30 22nd July 2005, 03:11 PM

The game is real...it's that you guys don't even realise what's going on.
I used to know a kid, steven, who was only 16 died of heart stroke on the day he play the game. So, please, don't tell me that the expermential stuff and other bogus talk.
I'm not trying insult or attack anyone, but i'm telling you the truth.