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17th July 2002, 03:27 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | Originally posted by Jerry Smith
And the same conundrum would apply to the ancients practicing brain surgery, watching UFO's land, and stargazing with European style telescopes... also depicted in the Ica Stones....
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17th July 2002, 03:30 PM
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"Stones without organic material trapped in them can only be dated by dating the organic material in the strata in which they are found. Since Cabrera's stones come from some mystery cave which has never been identified, much less excavated, there is no way to date them."
Took me a minute to work out what they were discussing. I was thinking "We date inorganics all the time". 
UWO, how do you account for this tidbit?
Dr. Cabrera claims that a farmer found the stones in a cave. The farmer was arrested for selling the stones to tourists. He told the police that he didn't really find them in a cave, but that he made them himself
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17th July 2002, 04:01 PM
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Reps: 22 (power: 0) | | Originally posted by Morat
UWO, how do you account for this tidbit?
No the question is, how do you account for it?
Hey I'm just as skeptical as you are about them, but just because someone makes a website and posts a reply doesn't make it truth....or does it?
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17th July 2002, 04:09 PM
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Reps: 20 (power: 0) | | | What? That the farmer recanted and claimed they were hoaxes? That's far more consistant with the evidence then the notion they are real.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". If farmer John wants to offer something that shows geologist, paleontologists, and cultural anthropologists and historians all completely, utterly, and totally wrong...that's great.
But he's going to have to start by pointing out the cave, first.
Until then, he's got less credibility than Uri Geller.
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17th July 2002, 05:05 PM
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Reps: 22 (power: 0) | | | Yes and there are 5000+ of these. I don't suppose the farmer made all these himself? Maybe its a mass conspiracy to rebuttal evolution!!
LOL!
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17th July 2002, 05:09 PM
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What? That the farmer recanted and claimed they were hoaxes? That's far more consistant with the evidence then the notion they are real.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". If farmer John wants to offer something that shows geologist, paleontologists, and cultural anthropologists and historians all completely, utterly, and totally wrong...that's great.
But he's going to have to start by pointing out the cave, first.
Until then, he's got less credibility than Uri Geller.
True.
(And until you show a truly empty vacuum that suddenly produces virtual particles, then you have less credibility than that farmer)  |
17th July 2002, 05:09 PM
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Reps: 25 (power: 0) | | | No, the farmer probably borrowed the idea from the old whazzisname who has the "museum"... Might have actually been in his paid employee...
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17th July 2002, 05:23 PM
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Reps: 20 (power: 0) | | | Souljah: Are you wanting to embarass yourself again? For someone who fled the last conversation about the topic (after the humiliation of learning he was so ignorant that he was quoting things that demolished his position) I would expect you to back off of it. It's not my fault that your ignorance of physics prevents you from grasping the subject, nor is it my fault that your ignorance is such that you can't grasp why the Casimir effect is quite obviously evidence enough.
Want to try this topic again, or do you just want to start a fight, then run away whining because we weren't nice to your mixture of arrogance and ignorance?
But until then, your whining about "producing a vacuum to see it" is going to be treated like a 5 year old's complaints that we can't know stellar fusion cycles because no one has seen inside a star, or that we can't know planets orbit other suns, just because ours do.
UWO: The link we gave mentions that modern ICA artists have continued to make them.
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17th July 2002, 06:05 PM
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17th July 2002, 06:08 PM
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Reps: 20 (power: 0) | | | I did. The Casimir effect. You couldn't understand it, got huffy, demanded the impossible as "proof" and then claimed yourself triumphant. It was cute, at first, like a 5 year old demanding I prove 2+2 =5, or else he'll "know" math doesn't work.
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