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PS I am very thankful I'm a Christian. Christians are not religious----- Christians have a real FRIEND in JESUS. Religion is something man makes up to fill a gap----like Evolution for instance...
I don't know what your definition of "religion" is, but as per any commonly used definition, Christianity is a religion.
__________________ Creationism has not made a single contribution to agriculture, medicine, conservation, forestry, pathology, or any other applied area of biology. Creationism has yielded no classifications, no biogeographies, no underlying mechanisms, no unifying concepts with which to study organisms or life. - Botanical Society of America's Statement on Evolution
Why is it that apes and monkeys have no beards or mustaches. Apes do not seen to be into body art or body piercing either. This is just an observation. Beards have been around seemingly since Adam and yet I see no connection with primates. Come to think of it, I've seen no ape sporting the "Tarzan" look. After supposed "millions" of years of cavemen hanging around with apes, apes still are not into sporting clothing. In fact, they (unlike us) do not even seem to understand the idea of modesty. It would seem that apart from a few similarities in form, that is where the similarities end. They are animals-----we are humans.
Certain humans are born without the ability to grow a beard (or any hair whatso ever). Does that make them not human? Certain tribes of human do not understand modesty. Does that make them not human?
Your argument is horrible. You're basing human-ness off of quantative traits, where as for every a qualative trait in a human, it is possible to find in the animal kingdom.
Why is it that apes and monkeys have no beards or mustaches. Apes do not seen to be into body art or body piercing either. This is just an observation. Beards have been around seemingly since Adam and yet I see no connection with primates. Come to think of it, I've seen no ape sporting the "Tarzan" look. After supposed "millions" of years of cavemen hanging around with apes, apes still are not into sporting clothing. In fact, they (unlike us) do not even seem to understand the idea of modesty. It would seem that apart from a few similarities in form, that is where the similarities end. They are animals-----we are humans.
Can a cheetah retract it's claws? (The answer is, "no".) Then I guess they're not a part of the cat family. Does a snow owl have ear tufts like the Great Horned Owl? (The answer is, "no".) So I guess they're not both owls. Since mammals tend not to be venomous, I suppose any animal that is venomous isn't a mammal, correct? What about the male platypus?
The thing that makes one species different from another is that they have differences. If they didn't have differences, they'd be of the same species. (Slow me down if I start to move too fast for you.) Since most men grow facial whiskers and most women don't, does that mean that men and women are of unrelated species?
So the fact that humans have a difference in facial hair from some other primates doesn't make them other than primates. You seem to overlook the similarities and have to dig down to the follicle distribution in order to find a significant difference. Isn't that making a little bell go off in your head or did you intentionally silence that bell years ago when it started to interfere with what you were being taught?
Take a human corpse and another primate, (Obviously, don't really do this. Just imagine.) Cut them both open and dump the contents of the chest cavity, skull and abdominal cavity into large vats, one for the human, one for the other primate. Cut them up and stir them around. Now take equal volumes from each vat, have someone else swap them around for you and then you tell me which is which. We're primates and that means we're animals.
By the way, modesty is learned, not instinctive.
Originally Posted by LittleNipper
Butter beans share about 98% of our DNA (or so I''m told). I do not seriously believe that I am related to butter bearns. I would think that shaving might be considered a defect. There are better ways to spend time than shaving or getting tattooed or getting a haircut. Do butterbeans shave?
This is what can happen when you base the acceptance of what you are told simply upon what you wish to believe rather than upon research and confirmation. Butter beans do not share anywhere close to 98% of our DNA.
Shaving is a choice. If you think it's a waste of time, stop shaving. Tattoos and haircuts are also completely optional. Do you really believe that man has shaved, tattooed himself and cut his hair from the very first emergence of the human species?
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Can a cheetah retract it's claws? (The answer is, "no".) Then I guess they're not a part of the cat family. Does a snow owl have ear tufts like the Great Horned Owl? (The answer is, "no".) So I guess they're not both owls. Since mammals tend not to be venomous, I suppose any animal that is venomous isn't a mammal, correct? What about the male platypus?
The thing that makes one species different from another is that they have differences. If they didn't have differences, they'd be of the same species. (Slow me down if I start to move too fast for you.) Since most men grow facial whiskers and most women don't, does that mean that men and women are of unrelated species?
So the fact that humans have a difference in facial hair from some other primates doesn't make them other than primates. You seem to overlook the similarities and have to dig down to the follicle distribution in order to find a significant difference. Isn't that making a little bell go off in your head or did you intentionally silence that bell years ago when it started to interfere with what you were being taught?
Take a human corpse and another primate, (Obviously, don't really do this. Just imagine.) Cut them both open and dump the contents of the chest cavity, skull and abdominal cavity into large vats, one for the human, one for the other primate. Cut them up and stir them around. Now take equal volumes from each vat, have someone else swap them around for you and then you tell me which is which. We're primates and that means we're animals.
By the way, modesty is learned, not instinctive.
This is what can happen when you base the acceptance of what you are told simply upon what you wish to believe rather than upon research and confirmation. Butter beans do not share anywhere close to 98% of our DNA.
Shaving is a choice. If you think it's a waste of time, stop shaving. Tattoos and haircuts are also completely optional. Do you really believe that man has shaved, tattooed himself and cut his hair from the very first emergence of the human species?
Male primates don't shave. They never shaved. They do not grow beards. Male humans who never shave grow beards. Therefore humans and primates do not share a common ancestor.
Christianity is uncommon, it is not common. Evolution is common. Evolution is a religion.
Huh? Are you inventing your own dictionary? Because we are having a failure to communicate...
__________________ Creationism has not made a single contribution to agriculture, medicine, conservation, forestry, pathology, or any other applied area of biology. Creationism has yielded no classifications, no biogeographies, no underlying mechanisms, no unifying concepts with which to study organisms or life. - Botanical Society of America's Statement on Evolution
I'm REALLY starting to think this forum is actually infested with 25% Christian Trolls, 25% sane Christians (and no, that doesn't mean that they have to believe in theistic evolution.. you can be a YEC and still be sane! (but just uninformed ), and 50% atheists who have a hard time seeing who are just trolling, and who are actually trying to make a point.
I mean, the OP, come on. That isn't even worthy of a response.
), and 50% atheists who have a hard time seeing who are just trolling, and who are actually trying to make a point.
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