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11th July 2002, 05:29 PM
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Nick offered the following Bible quote: Romans 1:20-22
20 For ever since the creation of the world His invisible nature and attributes, that is, His eternal power and divinity, have been made intelligible and clearly discernible in and through the things that have been made. So [men] are without excuse
So here the Bible is clearly telling us that God's nature has been made "intelligible and clearly discernible" in nature. In other words, what we can observe and experience in nature is evidence of the true nature of God.
If nature appears to be very old, then who are we to conclude that God and the Earth itself are not very old?
If living things clearly appear to have evolved, then who are we to say that evolution was not a part of God's creative nature?
The Bible encourages us to accept what we see in nature as evidence of God's true nature, and goes on to admonish those who deny it: But instead they became futile and godless in their thinking and their senseless minds were darkened.
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11th July 2002, 05:31 PM
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12th July 2002, 10:25 AM
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12th July 2002, 10:50 AM
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I had hoped to receive more commentary on this post. Anyone?
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12th July 2002, 11:30 AM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | This, as most things, depends on how you look at things. Not how you look at the Bible, mind you, but how you look at the world.
I clearly see God in everything I look at. I clearly see a world that He made.
But I don't clearly see evolution.
I see a world that appears old, and the Bible said that everything that He made was mature...that includes this planet.
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12th July 2002, 01:17 PM
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12th July 2002, 01:27 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | The problem is there isn't conclusive proof of evolution, and if the fossil record is as weak as evolutionists now claim, there may never be conclusive evidence of evolutionary theory. Evolution may have occurred, or it may not have, or it could be some things evolved and some were created via special creation, with God doing both. At this point, science doe snot have the answer, and to pretend it does is to ignore the holes in the data. |
12th July 2002, 01:41 PM
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Reps: 25 (power: 0) | | | Randman, The fossil record does support evolution, and evolution is required to explain the trends in it, but that is only a fragment of the evidence for evolution. Even if we never find another fossil, common descent has already been supported beyond any kind of reasonable, scientific doubt. True that word of this has been slow reaching some parts.
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12th July 2002, 01:44 PM
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I would agree that the bible supports science, but evolution is not science, it's philosophy.
Funny, everyone except certain fundamentalist Christians seems to think it's science. Care to explain what you mean by your statement? |
12th July 2002, 02:48 PM
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"If nature appears to be very old, then who are we to conclude that God and the Earth itself are not very old? "
Auhhh.... Because your Bible says its not. | | |
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