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10th July 2002, 01:19 PM
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See the last line. "Ted wanted to be cremated," former teammate Johnny Pesky noted. "He was an atheist. He didn't believe in religion."
Chances are 10-14% of the people that you know are atheist, agnostic, humanist or otherwise nonbelievers and are just afraid to say so because of the unjustified negative reactions that they would receive. We are everywhere. |
10th July 2002, 01:53 PM
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Reps: 273 (power: 0) | | | Im not saying this to be mean but....hasn't anyone ever told you not to belive eveything you hear?Im not saying that this statement is wrong because it could very well be the truth...but Your only getting this from ONE sorce. Alot of people in the world may hide thir belifes because they are scared of what others may say or do. We as Followers of Chirst know that this is wrong to do...but thats not saying it doesnt happen. As well...like you quote says this is what ONE man noted. once again Im sorry if that sounds a little mean, I dont mean for it to sound like that. |
10th July 2002, 02:05 PM
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Reps: 14,933 (power: 32) | | | Lacking information to the contrary, I do think that it's reasonable to conditionally accept the word of a friend of his, given that there are about 30 million non-believers in the US and that non-believe in a deity has nothing to do with the quality of ones' character.
Mainly I wonder if peoples' opinion of Ted Williams would change simply based on the knowledge that he was an atheist. If it does, then I think that those people have some "soul" searching to do. |
10th July 2002, 03:45 PM
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Well, once again, Ted Williams was one of the greatest hitters of all time. Personally, I don't see another ballplayer batting .400 or over in a season. Extremely hard endeavor to say the least.
My father got to see many of the greats in professional baseball.
I would have loved to have been able to see some of the old great players of a different era.
Who cares if Ted Williams believed in flying monkeys, the fact of the matter he was a baseball legend at a time when the allmighty dollar didn't rule the game as it does now.
Ted Williams desrves recognition of his great baseball skills not if he was an atheist.
If he was still alive I bet bottom dollar he would be in agreement.
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10th July 2002, 05:17 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | Originally posted by gunnysgt
If he was still alive I bet bottom dollar he would be in agreement.
Or maybe he was a real jerk and would want to argue over the existance of god with you, just for the sake of arguing... 
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10th July 2002, 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by crazyfingers
Chances are 10-14% of the people that you know are atheist, agnostic, humanist or otherwise nonbelievers and are just afraid to say so because of the unjustified negative reactions that they would receive.
We are everywhere.
Ummm....... and? So? Did this really warrant the creation of a thread?
I find it interesting that atheists care more about what religion a person is than what they have accomplished in their life.
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10th July 2002, 06:44 PM
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Great ballplayer, but if he denied his savior, his .400 batting average isn't going to mean beans to him now huh?
10-14% ? Pretty small odds, Should we make Atheists a seperate minority?
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10th July 2002, 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by strathyboy
Ummm....... and? So? Did this really warrant the creation of a thread?
Yes. I have already stated the point but I'll state it again in a different way. Given that something like 45% of the US population thinks that one must believe in a supreme being to be a good person, I wonder how those people would view the info. that Ted Williams was an atheist.
He is honored not just as a great baseball player but also for his service to the country in war and his dedication to the Jimmy Fund, if I remember correctly.
Will those 45% of Americans who think that God is necessary for moralily change their minds about their beliefs? Will they change their minds about him? Will they rationalize him away as an exception? I find it interesting that atheists care more about what religion a person is than what they have accomplished in their life.
Frankly, I was rather wondering the same thing about that 45% of Americans who think that one must have a god to be good. That was the point. You jumped to a very erroneous conclusion regarding my intent I'm afraid.  |
10th July 2002, 07:02 PM
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Yeah, who cares? Thats Ted's problem.
It's to his credit. Great ballplayer, but if he denied his savior, his .400 batting average isn't going to mean beans to him now huh?
Since he is, unfortuately, gone, it most certainly doesn't matter to him any more.
10-14% ? Pretty small odds,
30 million people in the US is a lot of people. If atheists constituted a church I believe that we would be the second largest, falling between Baptists and Catholics. Should we make Atheists a seperate minority?
How about all those 45% of theists just quit treating us like second class citizens. That's be a start. | | |
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