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8th June 2005, 11:16 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | Anglican view of sexuality I understand that the anglicans/Episcopals believe that homosexuality is disordered similar to how the catholics believe, but what about other sexuality? Birth control... Abortion... etc | 
8th June 2005, 11:35 PM
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Reps: 595,719,677,604,302,592 (power: 595,719,677,604,329) | | | Actually, your first statment is false. It is a heavily debated subject.
In terms of other things however...
1. We don't usually see a problem with birth control.
2. Abortion is, again, a big debate, although it being used as a form of birth control is ahbored by all.
3. Pre-marital sex is highly discouraged
4. Sex education in schools is an important tool
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9th June 2005, 05:57 AM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | [quote=PaladinValer]Actually, your first statment is false. It is a heavily debated subject.
It is debated subject based on Gene Robinson and his consecration as bishop, but as the theology of the church itself, Homosexuality is considered disordered. All reports that I have read about the subject say that is the official view. Are the other subjects the official view? | 
9th June 2005, 03:23 PM
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Reps: 595,719,677,604,302,592 (power: 595,719,677,604,329) | | | Excuse me, it is not considered "disordered." Disordered implies it being some sort of maligne condition, which it is clearly not (and the Anglican Communion officially recognizes this fact).
In addition, you need to start reading just the reports from, say the AAC or those statements from the African and Asian provinces; they are in just as much hot water (if not hotter) and are utter hypocrites the way they are acting.
However, as I feared, we are diverging. I answered your actual question. Do you have any others?
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9th June 2005, 10:28 PM
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My understanding is that something from the Windsor Report was sufficient as a citation as the theology of the church. I would also think something posted on Episcopalian.org would have accurate information. (Being a newbie I had to edit out the citation for the actual paper)
I may be wrong. I understand that they are very conservative and anglo-cath. Do you have more maintream sites to check? There is not much I have noted that contains the catechism of the Anglican/Episcopal church. | 
11th June 2005, 10:04 PM
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Reps: 595,719,677,604,302,592 (power: 595,719,677,604,329) | | | The Windsor Report is a special document not to be taken lightly. It is true that, according to 1998 Lambth 1:10, there are clear certain guidelines about non-heterosexual "behaviors" (not being non-heterosexual by itself).
However, what is also true about Lambeth is that any decision is more like a guideline than a hard rule. There is not one province in the Anglican Communion that doesn't reject a certain Lambeth canon. The structure of the Anglican Communion is autocephalous; each province is, in essense, a self-governing body with its own canons.
The problem? The Anglican Communion isn't made of independent province but interdependent provinces. The fact that the ECUSA and the ACoC performed certain actions as they did in "question" of Lambeth wasn't so much the problem as the fact that my ECUSA and the ACoC provinces did so without acknowledging the interdependence of the Anglican Communion. Two other provinces, the Province of Rwanda and the Province in Southeast Asia, were also repremanded both by the Windsor Report and quite firmly by the Archbishop of Canterbury himself for actions that, quite frankly, are worse.
While Lambeth is arguably more like guidelines, there are certain core doctrines and dogmas that cannot be argued. One of these is the sanctity of provinces and diocese; no bishop has the right to interfere in another bishop's diocese. Same goes with one primate interferring in the affairs of another primate's province. The primates of those two provinces have been interferring in the affairs of the ECUSA province.
This has nothing to do with Lambeth; it has to do with Ecumenical Council, which our Anglican Communion holds in great esteem. They were when the Church wasn't divided; it was literally One. It goes against Holy Tradition, which is a part of the "three-legged stool" that makes up the credo of Anglicanism: Scripture, Tradition, Reason.
I invite you to join us in STR if you wish to understand the Anglican Communion better. A number of us are extremely knowledgeable about the structure of the AC and would be more than happy to answer your questions and guide you in learning more.
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13th June 2005, 07:59 PM
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Reps: 38,085,502 (power: 38,103) | | | I was a member of an ECUSA "Low Anglican" church (very "Victorian" in practice, was getting in trouble because they wouldn't give up the 1920's missal) which threatened about 6 years ago to pull all funding to the region because there were rumors that priests were marrying (or could or might marry) homosexuals.
I was in the process of marrying my current husband. We went through six months of intensive premarital counseling, and were instructed not to have premarital sex.
Additionally, I had been married previously (and I've got several great biblical reason to not be - if you want to jab me, feel free to PM me), and our priest had to get some sort of Episcopal dispensation (i.e. a permission slip signed by the Bishop) for him to marry us...
Constance
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14th June 2006, 01:52 PM
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1. Homosexuality is a Sin.
2. Pre-Marrital sex is not merely "discouraged" but is indeed a SIN.
3. Abortion is sinful unless both mother and Child were to die, in which case it is better to save one life than have two die.
4. Pre-conceptual Contraception is acceptable.
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14th June 2006, 04:12 PM
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Let it die.
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14th June 2006, 04:33 PM
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Reps: 2,755,407,900,167,334 (power: 2,755,407,900,186) | | Originally Posted by PaladinValer Cola, do you realize you resurrected a thread over a year old?
Let it die.
Um, I do now...... 
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