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Old 28th May 2005, 05:46 PM
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differences between Baptist and Pentecostal

whats the difference between Baptist and Pentecostal
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Old 28th May 2005, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Heero Yuy
whats the difference between Baptist and Pentecostal

Although there is diversity of thought in both traditions, I think the following generalizations are fair:


Pentecostals believe that the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is subsequent to salvation, whereas, Baptists believe that it is occurs at salvation.

Pentecostals think the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is an enduement of power for service and witness. Baptists believe it is the gracious act whereby we are incorporated into the body of Christ.

Pentecostals believe that glossolalia is the initial evidence of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit. Obviously, Baptist who are cessationists do not agree with this article of faith. Those who believe that the gifts are for today, usually do not ascribe to any particular charismatic gift as being evidential.

Baptists typically believe in eternal security, whereas, most Pentecostals do not.

I am certain there may be other differences, but this might get things started.
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I'm a pentecostal who attends a baptist chruch.

I find few differences between my beliefs and my churches beliefs, however even though I've a pentecostal I'm at odds with a lot of other pentecostals.

As already stated there is a difference in opinion about the baptism of the holy spirit. Pentecostals do believe it occurs after salvation, with some believing tongues to be the initial evidence of the baptism of the holy spirit. Baptists believe it happens at salvation.

The prosperity doctrine that is prevalent in so many pentecostal churches today isn't as strong amongst baptists. It's there, and from what I've seen it's growing, but it's not yet in every church. Ditto for the love doctrine and the movement to "unify the church", regardless of the treatment of truth in other denominations. Those that do buy into these doctrines are in my experience simply clones of many of their pentecostal neighbours.

There is also less of an emphasis on tithing amongst baptists. Whether baptists tithe or not I don't know, but it's not preached every sunday as it is in so many pentecostals these day.

Pentecostal churches seem more willing to put a female into a pastors role. I've yet to meet a baptist that doesn't flinch at that.

That's all I can come up with off the top of my head. It really depends on what sort of pentecostal you're talking about, and what sort of baptist as well. They can be identical or worlds apart.
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Old 29th May 2005, 10:07 AM
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Pentecostals seem to sing a bit louder and raise their hands a bit more readily than Baptists, we could learn a lot from them, as long as it's Biblical of course.
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At the Baptist church which I attend, tithing is mentioned from time to time, but not very often. However, we tithe, and I feel safe in saying that many of the other members also tithe. God has certainly blessed our church in many ways. For a while there, (3 years) the members gave extra, according to the way we felt God was leading us, and made a huge down payment on a multipurpose building that we badly needed.

Our former pastor (who left amicably) used to have a saying that he used when preaching on tithing. He would say, "I've never had a tither complain about a tithing sermon."
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Originally Posted by Lenora56
Our former pastor (who left amicably) used to have a saying that he used when preaching on tithing. He would say, "I've never had a tither complain about a tithing sermon."
You have now, 'cause I'm a tither.

It's not a tithing sermon I have a problem with. It's a tithing sermon every week that I consider inappropriate, especially when it's backed up by an unbiblical prosperity doctrine.
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Originally Posted by Iollain
Pentecostals seem to sing a bit louder and raise their hands a bit more readily than Baptists, we could learn a lot from them, as long as it's Biblical of course.
Read Psalm 149 or Psalm 150. Pentecostal sing because of the joy of salvation and are so excited that we have been set free from the law of sin and death and let every member of our body shout out in praise. Psalm 150 talks about how to dance and praise the Lord with clashing cymbals and pretty much let lose for the Lord.

There is nothing in the Bible that says watch the choir sing or stand like a stiff board and mumble under our breath.

I am not saying that baptists don't praise the Lord just because they have a different approach. I know Baptist that lift hands and get fired up for Jesus when they sing. You don't have to lift your hands but if you want to there shouldn't be others restricting your worship style. There are plenty that attend Pentecostal churches that stand around and don't participate in the lifting of hands. Pentecostal churches just don't have a rule restricting people from clapping, dancing, or raising hands. We don't worry about how others worship. Biblically it says we can dance and shout to the Lord and have a free style of worship.

Often other say you are drawing attention to yourself or are a distraction. When we praise the Lord we should be in accord with one another and not worry what the other person is doing or how they sing. Everyone should be thanking the Lord personally for the blessings in their own life and how he is so faithful and true in everything we do.

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wouldn't that be SOuthern Baptist???? I mean raising there hands ones...
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Originally Posted by Marissa
You have now, 'cause I'm a tither...
I didin't say that I had never heard a tither complain. I quoted the preacher as saying that he hadn't.

...It's not a tithing sermon I have a problem with. It's a tithing sermon every week that I consider inappropriate, especially when it's backed up by an unbiblical prosperity doctrine.
I see what you mean; however, this pastor would agree with you on both counts (the every-week thing and the prosperity doctrine). And if he had given a tithing sermon every week, I'm sure that tithers would have complained. I feel the same way that you do concerning that.
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Originally Posted by Lenora56
I didin't say that I had never heard a tither complain. I quoted the preacher as saying that he hadn't.
My apologies. My impression from your post was that you felt my comments on tithing were simply because I don't tithe. My mistake.
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