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Aron Ra unleashed: Texas evolution debate Round 2

His Round 2 response is up to Mark Ramsey of Texans for Better Science Education.

www.studentofnature.org/debatearchive.htm.
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Just thought Id ask if this link is meant to be screwed up?

"I didn’t consider it "proof" of anything except that Ramsey’s rambling is wrong again:

"Induced mutations followed by selection in laboratory experiments have not produced any beneficial structural changes."

–Nobel scientists and the FDA have both proved otherwise."

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Thanks Ed

We pored over those links last night. I can't believe one is screwed up.

How frustrating.
Originally Posted by Edx
Just thought Id ask if this link is meant to be screwed up?

"I didn’t consider it "proof" of anything except that Ramsey’s rambling is wrong again:

"Induced mutations followed by selection in laboratory experiments have not produced any beneficial structural changes."

–Nobel scientists and the FDA have both proved otherwise."

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"Warning: fopen(/home/talkor2/db/errors/err404.log): failed to open stream: Permission denied in /home/talkor2/public_html/404.php on line 57


Could not open error log file for output. "

Its an evolutionist conspiracy! They dont want people to know teh turth!1111!ONEone

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I think it is working now

I have to make sure that that is the page he intended.

Thanks

Originally Posted by Edx
"Warning: fopen(/home/talkor2/db/errors/err404.log): failed to open stream: Permission denied in /home/talkor2/public_html/404.php on line 57


Could not open error log file for output. "

Its an evolutionist conspiracy! They dont want people to know teh turth!1111!ONEone

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Hmm..I will be reading over the events when I get back tonight.


Good luck Aron....
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Aron Ra's 2nd post in the debate = teh pwnage.
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Aron Ra's 2nd post in the debate = teh pwnage.
it's lol-able. Given time to clarify his responses, this debate so far is more one-sided than most of the stuff we see in here.

I couldn't be happier that this will be in public record. If people with a brain read this, they're going to come to some very scary (and justified) conclusions regarding people like Mark Ramsey.
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Hmm..I will be reading over the events when I get back tonight.


Good luck Aron....
Dont forget his challenge to you, over in the debate forum
http://www.christianforums.com/showt...5#post15660345

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Originally Posted by mikeynov
I couldn't be happier that this will be in public record. If people with a brain read this, they're going to come to some very scary (and justified) conclusions regarding people like Mark Ramsey.
Yeah, I can't believe how hypocritical he was. He says that Aron Ra's response is typical of an evolution-defending website, then cites creationist websites as his support. He accussed Aron of making unsupported assertions (which he ironically fails to support), then makes unsupported assertions about weaknesses in the ToE. When Aron points out the abiogenesis isn't a part of the ToE and therefore has nothing to do with the topic at hand, Mark asserts that Aron is off topic. D'oh!

Paraphrased from Mark: "Evolution is a big controversy. Lots of people write stuff about the debate."

My response: No duh, Sherlock.

Paraphrased from Mark: "Google searches can hit a lot of 'excellent' creationist websites"

My response: If by "excellent", you mean criminally fradulent and misleading propaganda sites, then yes. Otherwise, no, they are not excellent.

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Edit: Ah, they have longer posts. Missed that earlier. The poll confirms the wretched truth - there has indeed been pwnage.
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