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20th May 2005, 11:32 AM
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__________________ "Consider the lilies is the only commandment I ever obeyed." -- Emily Dickinson
In some respects, science has far surpassed religion in delivering awe. How is it that hardly any major religion has looked at science and concluded, "This is better than we thought! The universe is much bigger than out prophets said, grander, more subtle, more elegant. God must be even greater than we dreamed"? Instead they say, "No, no, no! My god is a little god, and I want him to stay that way." _-Carl Sagan | 
20th May 2005, 12:06 PM
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20th May 2005, 12:09 PM
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How frustrating.
__________________ "Consider the lilies is the only commandment I ever obeyed." -- Emily Dickinson
In some respects, science has far surpassed religion in delivering awe. How is it that hardly any major religion has looked at science and concluded, "This is better than we thought! The universe is much bigger than out prophets said, grander, more subtle, more elegant. God must be even greater than we dreamed"? Instead they say, "No, no, no! My god is a little god, and I want him to stay that way." _-Carl Sagan | 
20th May 2005, 12:20 PM
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Its an evolutionist conspiracy! They dont want people to know teh turth!1111!ONEone | 
20th May 2005, 12:24 PM
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Thanks Originally Posted by Edx "Warning: fopen(/home/talkor2/db/errors/err404.log): failed to open stream: Permission denied in /home/talkor2/public_html/404.php on line 57 Could not open error log file for output. "
Its an evolutionist conspiracy! They dont want people to know teh turth!1111!ONEone 
__________________ "Consider the lilies is the only commandment I ever obeyed." -- Emily Dickinson
In some respects, science has far surpassed religion in delivering awe. How is it that hardly any major religion has looked at science and concluded, "This is better than we thought! The universe is much bigger than out prophets said, grander, more subtle, more elegant. God must be even greater than we dreamed"? Instead they say, "No, no, no! My god is a little god, and I want him to stay that way." _-Carl Sagan | 
20th May 2005, 02:10 PM
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20th May 2005, 02:15 PM
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20th May 2005, 03:39 PM
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Reps: 2,843 (power: 12) | | Originally Posted by Hydra009 Aron Ra's 2nd post in the debate = teh pwnage. 
it's lol-able. Given time to clarify his responses, this debate so far is more one-sided than most of the stuff we see in here.
I couldn't be happier that this will be in public record. If people with a brain read this, they're going to come to some very scary (and justified) conclusions regarding people like Mark Ramsey. | 
20th May 2005, 03:54 PM
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Good luck Aron.... 
Dont forget his challenge to you, over in the debate forum http://www.christianforums.com/showt...5#post15660345
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20th May 2005, 03:55 PM
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Reps: 45,671 (power: 65) | | Originally Posted by mikeynov I couldn't be happier that this will be in public record. If people with a brain read this, they're going to come to some very scary (and justified) conclusions regarding people like Mark Ramsey.
Yeah, I can't believe how hypocritical he was. He says that Aron Ra's response is typical of an evolution-defending website, then cites creationist websites as his support. He accussed Aron of making unsupported assertions (which he ironically fails to support), then makes unsupported assertions about weaknesses in the ToE. When Aron points out the abiogenesis isn't a part of the ToE and therefore has nothing to do with the topic at hand, Mark asserts that Aron is off topic. D'oh!
Paraphrased from Mark: "Evolution is a big controversy. Lots of people write stuff about the debate."
My response: No duh, Sherlock.
Paraphrased from Mark: "Google searches can hit a lot of 'excellent' creationist websites"
My response: If by "excellent", you mean criminally fradulent and misleading propaganda sites, then yes. Otherwise, no, they are not excellent.
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Edit: Ah, they have longer posts. Missed that earlier. The poll confirms the wretched truth - there has indeed been pwnage.
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Last edited by Hydra009; 20th May 2005 at 06:58 PM.
Reason: spelling. d'oh!
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