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The Lake of Fire revealed!

The Lake of Fire burning with Brimstone is spiritual. The symbolism revealed!

Lake symbolizes Water
- Washing of regeneration
- Baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins - Baptised in Water [Lake]
- Being born of water - Rebirth

Fire symbolizes Spirit
- The Renewing of the Holy Spirit
- Baptism of Fire - Salted with Fire
- Being born of Spirit - Rebirth

(John 3:5)
Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water [Lake] and the Spirit [Fire] he cannot enter the Kingdom of God.

Brimstone symbolizes Purification
- Used in the purification of temples - The greeks burned brimstone to purify their temples of worship
- Consecration - To make Holy unto God
- Being cleansed of sin - Sanctification

(1 Corinthians 3:16)
Don’t you know that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?

Torment symbolizes Suffering
- Trial by Fire
- Affliction - Way of the Cross
- Being chastised by God - Disiplinary punishment of sinners

(Acts 4:22)
We must through much tribulation [suffering] enter the kingdom of God.

(Hebrews 12:5-7)
My sons, do not despise the chastening of the Lord, nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him; for whom the Lord loves He chastens, and scourges every son whom He receives. If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten?

Second Death symbolizes the Death of the Sinful nature
- Dying to Sin [second death] - Releases us from the law of sin and death
- Death of the old man - Crucifying the Flesh
- To pass from death to life - Transformation into spiritual creatures in Christ
- Being redeemed from the power of Death and Hades [grave] - Made incorruptible and Immortal

(Romans 6:6)
For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin because anyone who has died [second death] has been freed from sin.

To be cast into the spiritual Lake of Fire burning with Brimstone is to be baptized of water [Lake] and the Spirit [Fire] consecrating [With Brimstone] the temple of God.

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That is an interesting interpretation. One I have not heard before. Rather than in outline format, I would like to see more of your evidence/reasoning before the roof caves in on this topic, so to speak.
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Originally Posted by Daveon
The Lake of Fire burning with Brimstone is spiritual. The symbolism revealed!

To be cast into the spiritual Lake of Fire burning with Brimstone is to be baptized of water [Lake] and the Spirit [Fire] consecrating [With Brimstone] the temple of God.
This is really interesting but there are a few things that don't quite fit...

And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

The devil, the beast and the false prophet won't be baptized with water nor the Spirit. Neither those who aren't written in the Book of Life.

Or have I completely missed the point of this thread..??

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Originally Posted by Daveon
The Lake of Fire burning with Brimstone is spiritual. The symbolism revealed!

Lake symbolizes Water
- Washing of regeneration
- Baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins - Baptised in Water [Lake]
- Being born of water - Rebirth

Fire symbolizes Spirit
- The Renewing of the Holy Spirit
- Baptism of Fire - Salted with Fire
- Being born of Spirit - Rebirth

(John 3:5)
Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water [Lake] and the Spirit [Fire] he cannot enter the Kingdom of God.

Brimstone symbolizes Purification
- Used in the purification of temples - The greeks burned brimstone to purify their temples of worship
- Consecration - To make Holy unto God
- Being cleansed of sin - Sanctification

(1 Corinthians 3:16)
Don’t you know that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?

Torment symbolizes Suffering
- Trial by Fire
- Affliction - Way of the Cross
- Being chastised by God - Disiplinary punishment of sinners

(Acts 4:22)
We must through much tribulation [suffering] enter the kingdom of God.

(Hebrews 12:5-7)
My sons, do not despise the chastening of the Lord, nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him; for whom the Lord loves He chastens, and scourges every son whom He receives. If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten?

Second Death symbolizes the Death of the Sinful nature
- Dying to Sin [second death] - Releases us from the law of sin and death
- Death of the old man - Crucifying the Flesh
- To pass from death to life - Transformation into spiritual creatures in Christ
- Being redeemed from the power of Death and Hades [grave] - Made incorruptible and Immortal

(Romans 6:6)
For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin because anyone who has died [second death] has been freed from sin.

To be cast into the spiritual Lake of Fire burning with Brimstone is to be baptized of water [Lake] and the Spirit [Fire] consecrating [With Brimstone] the temple of God.
The devil is going to be born again?
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The devil is going to be born again?
Apparently, Satan and his demons are going to be water baptised and born again into the kingdom, as are all of the unrepentent sinners and those who reject the Lamb.
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So if this is true...then why bother becoming a Christian...since apparently everyone including satan and the demonic will enter into eternal bliss with God.

Aw well..guess i can go out and sin all i want now cause it doesnt matter...also jesus teachings about holines...yea they are just a pile of cra p that dont matte, so yea lets now bother living by them lets all sin cause we all go to heaven anyway....right?
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There is nothing symbolic about Hell. It is a place where non-believers will go to be eternally separated from God. I can not fathom being eternally separated from God. No joy, peace, love, kindness...etc., etc.
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This is basically the belief of the Revelation of Thomas, which was rejected as unbiblical and uncanon b/c of this belief. You can't live your life as you want to just b/c you are saved in the end. Otherwise Christ's coming has no meaning.
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Originally Posted by Scott_LaFrance
Apparently, Satan and his demons are going to be water baptised and born again into the kingdom, as are all of the unrepentent sinners and those who reject the Lamb.
Ah! That's what I thought.

Why become a Christian indeed, if this were true. Might as well follow Satans lead...

I am sorry, but this theory is seriously flawed.
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Interesting theory, no concrete evidence for it, but alas interesting. Problem is we dont know 100% what is symbolic and what isnt in some areas
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